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加密/Web3 深度访谈与每周新闻

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Is Polymarket's Oracle Problem Getting Out of Hand? - Uneasy Money

Kane Warwick, Taylor Monahan & Luca Netz · Uneasy Money Hosts & Crypto Builders

Kane Warwick, Taylor Monahan, and Luca Netz discuss Polymarket's oracle problem after a poorly-worded MicroStrategy market, Solana's third inflation reduction proposal, Circle's court-order-driven USDC freeze of the Zama privacy protocol, Hyperliquid's 11-person team being "bigger than Nasdaq," and apps fleeing MegaETH for Monad grants in a brutal bear market.

Why Mike Dudas Has Zero Exposure to ETH, but Is Bullish on Hyperliquid

Mike Dudas · 6th Man Ventures Founder & VC

Mike Dudas(6th Man Ventures 创始人)分享了他完全零 ETH 仓位的原因,以及为何强烈看好 Hyperliquid。他提出无 KYC 国际市场是独立且巨大的赛道,用 Tether vs Circle 的框架分析 Hyperliquid 的定位,并深入讨论了 L1 竞争、Token 价值捕获机制、真实世界资产上链、AI Agent × Crypto,以及加密 VC 在 AI 时代的生存法则。

What Two DOJ Cases Reveal About the Legal Risks of Prediction Markets: Bits + Bips

Sam Enzer · Former SDNY Prosecutor, Partner at Cahill & Founder of Cahill Next

Former SDNY prosecutor Sam Enzer breaks down two historic DOJ prosecutions against prediction market traders — one involving classified military intelligence, the other Google's internal search data. The conversation unpacks what "insider trading" really means legally (it's not a legal term), the three legitimate ways to trade on non-public information, the George Santos prediction market controversy, the CFTC vs state gambling law showdown heading to the Supreme Court, and the risks every prediction market participant should understand.

The Chopping Block: Zcash Infinite Mint Bug + AI Hackers vs Formal Verification + NEAR's Agent Vision

Haseeb Qureshi, Mert Mumtaz, Ilia Polosukhin, Tom Schmidt · Dragonfly Managing Partner, Helius CEO, NEAR Protocol Co-founder, DeFi Maven

The Chopping Block 圆桌讨论:Zcash Orchard zk-SNARK 电路被发现致命"无限铸币"漏洞,安全研究员使用 Claude Opus 4.8 辅助审计发现了此前多年人工审计遗漏的 bug,导致 ZEC 单日暴跌 50%+。Ilia(NEAR)分析攻防不对称——攻击方拥有多个 AI 模型、无限时间和人手,形式化验证是唯一出路。NEAR 正在构建 AI Agent 自主商务基础设施,包括 Private Intents、跨链结算和代理市场。Mert 提出"看多数学"的哲学立场:除非物理定律禁止,否则数学安全系统的趋势不可逆转。

Bits + Bips: How the Dimon vs. Armstrong Clash Reveals Crypto at Peak Political Power

Austin Campbell, Ram Alwalia, Chris Perkins · Hosts & Investors — Bits + Bips panel

The Bits + Bips panel dissects five seismic shifts: Anthropic's near-trillion-dollar IPO filing, MicroStrategy's first Bitcoin sale since 2022 exposing a dangerous capital-stack mismatch, Hyperliquid's 11-person team being called "bigger than Nasdaq" by the ICE CEO, Jamie Dimon publicly torching Coinbase's Brian Armstrong over the Clarity Act, and DTCC selecting Stellar for tokenized equities coming in 2027. The through-line: crypto is at peak political power, but the window is closing.

CFTC Approves True Perps and Agentic Finance Gets Real: DEX in the City

Katherine (KK) & Jesse · Starkware & Ribbit Capital

Katherine (KK) and Jesse discuss the CFTC's landmark approval of Kalshi's true perpetual Bitcoin futures contract — a significant policy reversal from the CFTC's earlier stance classifying perps as swaps. The hosts break down the regulatory architecture (DCM/DCO/FCM), the case-by-case nature of the approval, and its implications for decentralized perp platforms like Hyperliquid. The episode also covers the hosts' new paper on agentic finance — the legal and infrastructure challenges when software agents become financial actors — plus a novel but legally flawed lawsuit claiming ownership of 40,000 abandoned crypto wallets, and a heartening story of a $1M Bitcoin charitable donation.

AI 商业模式正在崩裂——加密如何修补它?

Tommy Shaughnessy · Founding Partner at Delphi Ventures, Co-founder of Delphi Digital

Delphi Ventures 创始合伙人 Tommy Shaughnessy 揭示前沿 AI 实验室的订阅定价被补贴约 40 倍,企业从订阅迁移到 API 时撞上"费用墙",Uber 和 Microsoft 已开始削减支出。开源推理提供商以 1% 的成本提供 80-90% 的质量,正在分流企业客户。OpenAI 降价背后既有客户流失的压力,也有打击 Anthropic IPO 的战略考量。中国开源模型可能转向闭源——如果质量未超越美国,反而帮到 OpenAI 和 Anthropic。Crypto 在资本形成、抗审查访问、去中心化数据和开源社区治理四个方向上,提供了修补 AI 商业模式的潜在方案。

Why MSTR Should Have Sold $2 Billion Instead of $2 Million of Bitcoin

Jeff Dorman · Arca Chief Investment Officer

Jeff Dorman (Arca CIO) 解析 Strategy(前 MicroStrategy)的资本结构困局。$15B 优先股带来的 $1.7B 年息义务,叠加 $2B 现金缓冲被挪用于回购远期债务,让 Saylor 六年建立的信心飞轮正在瓦解。Dorman 提出了一个逆向建议:不该卖 $2.5M 试探市场,而应一次卖 $2B 撕掉创可贴。

How Digital Credit Assets like STRC and SATA Differ from Bitcoin or DAT Stocks

Matt Cole · Strive Chairman & CEO

Strive CEO Matt Cole 在数字信用遭遇"史上最艰难一天"后现身 Unchained,深度解析 SATA 和 STRC 的结构化金融逻辑。对话覆盖了退休金危机解决方案、信用利差与 Bitcoin 周期的关系、Strategy 决策争议、S&P 评级困境、以及自托管与包装器之间的文化辩论。

Why AI Censorship and Reg NMS Repeal Matter for Crypto Markets: DEX in the City

Jesse, V, KK · Web3 Protector (Ribbit Capital), 前 SEC 执法律师, StarkWare

本期 DEX in the City 深度讨论了三个正在重塑加密市场格局的重大事件:Anthropic 的 Fable 5 被政府秘密程序强制全球下线,引发了对 AI 审查与 Choke Point 2.0 的担忧;CFTC 发布 300 页预测市场新规,重新定义"博彩"并放行政治选举合约;SEC 提议废除运行 20 年的 Reg NMS 611/610E 规则,为链上证券市场扫清结构性障碍。三位嘉宾从加密行业视角出发,探讨了 AI 治理中的信任困境、密码学技术的解决方案潜力,以及"技术消除监管需求"的可能性。

Why Kalshi's John Wang Says Perps Are 'the Most Pure Trading Instrument'

John Wang · Kalshi 加密货币负责人

Kalshi 加密货币负责人 John Wang 接受 Unchained 主持人 Laura Shin 专访,解读 Kalshi 如何成为首个获 CFTC 批准在美国推出加密永续合约的交易所。对话涵盖永续合约的本质定义、$90 万亿离岸市场的合规化迁移、多层风险管理体系、对 CME 集团批评的回应、资产上线逻辑、竞争格局以及 Kalshi 打造"全球最大交易所"的终极愿景。

How Hyperliquid Benefits From Its New Deal With Coinbase Over USDC

Alex Weslie · Institutional Data Lead at Artemis Analytics

Alex Weslie from Artemis Analytics breaks down Coinbase acquiring USDH brand assets to become Hyperliquid's official USDC treasury deployer — a deal that shifts 90% of stablecoin yield to Hyperliquid, adding ~$150M in recurring annual revenue. The conversation expands to Coinbase's $300B agentic commerce thesis, the Circle-Coinbase competitive tension, and Hyperliquid's dominant 50% perps market share.

Why Fable's Shutdown Is a Warning for Every AI Lab: Uneasy Money

Kadeem Clarke, Taylor Monahan, Luca Netz, Porter Stole · 播客主持人 + 特邀嘉宾(W3.io CEO)

Uneasy Money 三位主持人与 W3.io CEO Porter Stole 深度讨论了四个交织的主题:Anthropic 的 Fable 模型被美国政府动用出口管制突然关闭的完整内幕;Coinbase 大规模新品发布(代币化股票、agentic payments)背后的战略逻辑与用户批评;欧洲监管环境如何系统性地抑制创新;以及 Strategy/Michael Saylor 的比特币操作如何暴露了纯信念系统的结构性脆弱。所有话题最终指向同一个问题——权力集中、监管边界、以及谁能定义"什么是真实"。

The Chopping Block: Ethereum's Inflection Point w/ Joe Lubin on DATs, CROPS, AI-Driven Exploits, Quantum Threats, and CFTC's Perps

Joe Lubin · founder

Joe Lubin joins The Chopping Block panel to make the bull case for Ethereum amid bearish sentiment. The discussion covers Saylor's first BTC sale in four years, the Ethereum Foundation's restructuring around CROPS and credible neutrality, Justin Drake's stark quantum Q-Day predictions, the implications of AI-driven DeFi exploits, ZK-based bridge-free architecture, and the CFTC's landmark approval of US perpetual futures.

The Chopping Block: SpaceX IPO Mania, Fable 5 Export Controls & The AI Privacy Fight

The Chopping Block (Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, Robert Leshner, Haseeb Qureshi) · investor

本期 The Chopping Block 深度解析三大热点:SpaceX 史上最大 IPO 的 4.2% 极限低流通量、激进解锁机制及加密平台 IPO 分销彻底失败;Hyperliquid 永续合约以惊人精度预测首日价格,HIP3 生态加速集中到 trade.xyz;Fable 5/Mythos 被美国政府列为网络武器施加出口管制,引爆 AI 隐私之战与去中心化推理的兴起。四位嘉宾在 Elon Musk 的金融工程天才、中国开源模型的意外崛起以及 Crypto 与 AI 的平行历史中展开激烈交锋。

Why Saylor's 'Inoculate' Comment May Be a Signal He'll Sell More Bitcoin

Glen Cameron · CFA, Global Head of Institutional at Onramp Bitcoin

Glen Cameron, CFA and Global Head of Institutional at Onramp Bitcoin, delivers a rigorous risk analysis of Strategy's (MicroStrategy) financial engineering — from Michael Saylor's 32 BTC sale as an "inoculation" signal, to the structural risks in STRC perpetual preferred stock, to the 83% retail holders who may not understand what they bought.

The Chopping Block: Is Strategy the Luna for Suits?, ETH Labs Shakeup & CME vs Perps

Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, Laura Shin · investor

The Chopping Block 的四位常驻主持人讨论了本周加密世界的四个重大事件:Strategy(原 MicroStrategy)的优先股 STRC 从 $100 跌至 $82 引发的"穿西装的 Luna"辩论;以太坊基金会裁员 20% 与 ETHLabs 成立带来的治理权力转移;CME 起诉 CFTC 试图扼杀美国永续合约市场;以及 Meta 被曝正在开发预测市场产品 Arena。贯穿四个故事的主线是加密行业从"车库叛逆少年"走向"需要负责任的成年人"的转型阵痛。

Why CME Sued the CFTC Over the Kalshi Bitcoin Perp Approval

KK, V, Jesse, B · 律师 / 加密法律专家

CME 史无前例地起诉其核心监管机构 CFTC,起因是 CFTC 批准了 Kalshi 的比特币永续合约。四位加密法律专家深度拆解:永续合约到底属于期货还是互换?CFTC 一天审批是否构成武断随意?Cboe 联手 Schwab 走 SEC 合规路径是否在绕开预测市场的监管争议?以及技术行业面临的公众信任危机与程序正义的永恒命题。

Unchained Celebrates 10 Years! Laura and Haseeb Cover Highs, Lows and New Directions

Laura Shin & Haseeb Qureshi · Journalist & Investor

Unchained 十周年特辑中,创始人 Laura Shin 与 Dragonfly 管理合伙人 Haseeb Qureshi 进行了一场自由对谈。从 Necker Island 上的首集录制到成为唯一存活至今的 Forbes 播客,从为写作卖掉加密货币到被建制媒体拒之门外后重新买回,Laura 回顾了十年的高光与低谷。对谈覆盖了 SBF/FTX 的震撼、有效利他主义的哲学辩论、独立媒体对传统新闻的替代,以及 Laura 如何因健康危机从建制自由派彻底转变为一个倾向自由主义的独立声音。

Claude Found a 4-Year Zcash Bug. Now It Won't Audit DeFi: Uneasy Money

Kain Warwick, Taylor Monahan, Luca Netz · Unchained hosts + Pudgy Penguins CEO

Unchained 的三位主持人讨论了 Anthropic Fable 5 模型发布带来的连锁反应。 Fable 5 采用了基于话题检测而非意图判断的全新安全范式,导致安全研究人员完全无法使用它进行智能合约审计。 Kain Warwick 用实验揭示了一个惊人的事实:$200/月的 AI 订阅实际上可以消耗高达 $20,000 的 API 等价额度——100 倍的补贴不可持续。 节目还涵盖了朝鲜黑客窃取 AI API Key 的新趋势、Fable 5 令人恐惧的推理能力突破,以及 Pump.fun 赏金市场引发的伦理争议。

Is 'All of DeFi Unsafe'? What You Need to Know About Holding Assets Onchain

Isaac Patka & Mike Silagadze · Certifications Lead at Security Alliance & CEO of EtherFi

OpenZeppelin co-founder Manuel Araoz ignited a firestorm by declaring all of DeFi unsafe, citing AI-powered vulnerability discovery as an insurmountable asymmetry. Security Alliance's Isaac Patka and EtherFi CEO Mike Silagadze push back: 90% of real-world DeFi exploits are embarrassing opsec failures, not code bugs. The conversation unpacks decentralization theater, the three-tier multisig architecture protocols should adopt, why defenders have the advantage in the AI arms race, and the fundamental principle that "code is not law" — error correction mechanisms are both necessary and compatible with meaningful decentralization.

Ethereum Foundation Staff Are Leaving. What Does It Mean for ETH? - Uneasy Money

Kane Work, Taylor Monahan & Luke Annette · Uneasy Money Hosts

Uneasy Money 三位主持人深度讨论三大加密叙事:SpaceX 预 IPO 永续合约在 Hyperliquid 上的价格发现实验、以太坊基金会核心研究员接连离职背后的组织动荡("传教士"的 capitulation)、以及 AI 编码代理如何改写安全研究与漏洞攻击的规则。穿插 xAI 的算力霸权、Thorchain TSS 密码学攻击的拆解,以及 AI 安全护栏被"越狱"的荒诞故事。

Can Hyperliquid Come Onshore Without Killing What Makes It Special?

Walt Lukin & Chris Perkins · FIA President & CEO; CEO of 250 Digital Asset Management

一场关于 DeFi 衍生品交易所 Hyperliquid 如何应对美国监管压力的三方对谈。 CME 与 ICE 联合要求 CFTC 对 Hyperliquid 施加监管,引发了一个根本性问题: 一个去中心化的永续合约交易所能否在保持其创新特质的同时进入美国受监管市场? FIA 主席 Walt Lukin 与前全球最大 FCM 之一的负责人 Chris Perkins 从三个可能路径出发, 深入讨论了 24/7 交易、风险瀑布与 ADL、原则导向监管的潜力,以及 DeFi 时代"谁来负责"的哲学难题。

The Bond Market Is the Boss Now: Bits + Bips

Noelle Acheson · researcher

Noelle Acheson (Crypto is Macro Now) joins Steve Ehrlich to dissect the historic divergence between soaring stock markets and climbing bond yields. The conversation covers the structural BLISS trade, why inflation never actually came down, Jerome Powell's mixed legacy, what Kevin Warsh can and cannot do as the new Fed chair, and why Bitcoin is stuck between being a debasement hedge and just another risk asset.

Bitcoin Stalls, Stocks Soar: The Disconnect That Defines This Cycle

Steve Sosnick · Chief Strategist, Interactive Brokers

Interactive Brokers 首席策略师 Steve Sosnick 深入剖析当前市场的核心矛盾——AI 股票推动股市创新高,而加密货币横盘不前。他提出了"棘轮效应"来解释地缘政治消息如何单边推高股市,同时警告 dot-com 时代的 AI 基建泡沫风险、即将到来的百亿美元 IPO 洪峰,以及加密 ETF 带来的"crypto tourists"现象。

Why the Consensus After-Party Set Crypto Back: DEX in the City

Jesse, V & Catherine (KK) · Crypto Legal & Policy Experts

DEX in the City 三位主播深度解读 CLARITY 法案的立法路径与三大障碍(通过概率仅 35-40%),分析 Palo Alto Networks Mythos 类 AI 模型如何改变 DeFi 安全范式,探讨 WallStreetBets 散户 comment letter 无意中为链上信息披露做的辩护,并直击 Consensus 官方会后派对争议暴露的行业问责真空与包容性危机。

Is the Ethereum Foundation Too Out of Touch to Save ETH?

Zach Cole & Greg Marku · Zach: Number Group Managing Partner & ECF President; Greg: Sprinter CEO & ChainSafe Co-founder

ETH 从 $5000 跌至 $2100,六位核心成员在 Tomosh Stanczak 离职后集中出走,Vitalik 发表争议性长文承认 ETH 是"最有价值的产品"——以太坊正经历两年来最严重的信任危机。Zach Cole 和 Greg Marku 与 Laura Shin 深度对谈 EF 的结构性缺陷、CROPS 宣言的 PR 灾难、竞争格局的剧变,以及唯一可行的出路:公开董事会、专业管理、认真对待 ETH 的经济价值。

Bits + Bips: The Interview — The $16 Trillion Repo Market Is TradFi's Central Nervous System. Its Finally Coming Onchain

Craig Burchell & Matteo Pendolfi · FalconX Head of Lending & Paredo CEO

FalconX 借贷主管 Craig Burchell 与 Paredo CEO Matteo Pendolfi 深度解析传统 repo 市场如何走向链上。从 $16 万亿政府债券 repo 的底层机制,到 2019 年隔夜利率危机揭示的流动性管道缺陷,再到稳定币 repo、RWA 代币化的流动性困境,以及链上 repo 能否在 5 年内突破万亿规模。

The Chopping Block: Ethereum's Identity Crisis, Apostates Speak Out, and Is ETH the Microsoft of Crypto?

David Hoffman, Max Resnick · panel — Bankless co-founder, ex-Consensys technologist

The Chopping Block 邀请两位 Ethereum 「背教者」——Bankless 联合创始人 David Hoffman 和前 ConsenSys 技术专家 Max Resnick——深度剖析 ETH 的身份危机。David 解释为何在 2026 年卖掉所有 ETH,Max 从技术角度剖析 EF 为何停滞不前,Haseeb 提出「ETH = 加密世界的微软」类比。节目涵盖 EF 出走潮、价值捕获结构性问题、500 万亿证券上链的机会之争、以及 Solana 作为替代方案的崛起。

Uneasy Money: Illia Polosukhin on Why Onchain Commerce Needs Confidentiality

Illia Polosukhin · founder

Near Protocol 联合创始人、Transformer 论文合著者 Illia Polosukhin 与 Kane、Tay、Luca 探讨为什么链上商务需要保密性才能触及真正的商业 TAM,Near 的 Intents 和机密分片如何实现隐私与反犯罪的平衡,以及对 Ethereum Foundation、Google 和去中心化文化的犀利批判。Illia 还分享了 Ironclaw 多租户 AI 协调系统、AI CEO 愿景,以及 AI+区块链如何共同构建比当前经济高效 1000 倍的后 AGI 市场体系。

Why Pre-IPO Perps Like SpaceX on Hyperliquid Are Seeing an Upswing

Dio Casares · Polygon 创始人 & CEO

Unchained 主持人 Laura Shin 与 Polygon 创始人 Dio Casares 深入探讨链上 pre-IPO 永续合约市场的爆发式增长。Hyperliquid 交易量从 $3M 飙升至 $44M,SpaceX 的 pre-IPO perp 上线仅距 IPO 三周。Dio 揭示为什么 Anthropic 和 OpenAI 公开否认二级交易是双重策略——控制资金流向一级市场并隔离法律责任。他还分析了衍生品相对于通证化现货的监管优势、SPV 多层结构的"法律烫手山芋"风险、以及即将到来的历史级 IPO 浪潮如何为 pre-IPO perps 创造完美时机。

Why Fintechs May Finally Beat Banks at Their Own Game: DEX in the City

Jesse, V, and Catherine (KK) · panel — River Capital, former SEC, Starkware

DEX in the City hosts break down a packed regulatory week: a White House executive order opening Fed master accounts to fintechs and crypto companies, the GENIUS Act threatening banks' core advantages, Polymarket partnering with Nasdaq to give retail access to private market alpha, a scathing NYT investigation into the CFTC, and an AI executive order that vanished from the Oval Office after three phone calls. The episode explores what happens when fintech finally beats banks at their own game.

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Why the SEC Paused on Its Innovation Exemption for Tokenization: Bits + Bips
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Why the SEC Paused on Its Innovation Exemption for Tokenization: Bits + Bips

Citadel and SIFMA lobbied to slow tokenized equity rules. Arjun Sethi calls it 'corporate plumbing.' Chris Perkins calls it a bond future moment. --- Thank you to our sponsor! ⁠⁠Coinbase One⁠⁠: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at ⁠⁠coinbase.com/unchained⁠⁠. Heads up! If you haven’t yet, be sure to subscribe to Bits + Bips, since the show will migrate there in a few weeks. Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Unchained⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and wherever you get your podcasts. ---- Kraken has spent $2.75 billion on acquisitions in the past year, and co-CEO Arjun Sethi says the point is not a bigger exchange. The goal is a 24/7 global operating system for capital markets: spot, derivatives, payments, tokenized equities, and custody under one regulatory stack. Sethi makes the case for each move, from REAP's tripling revenue in emerging markets to Bitnomial's CFTC trifecta, and says what will actually drive Kraken's next three years is not trading volume. The conversation then turns to the SEC's paused innovation exemption for tokenized equities, why Citadel and SIFMA showed up to lobby against it, and whether direct listings on crypto rails could eventually replace Wall Street's IPO machine. The episode closes on a question nobody saw coming: what Pope Leo's first encyclical on AI and finance has to do with the Bitcoin white paper. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Austin Campbell (@austincampbell) — Founder, Zero Knowledge Consulting; Adjunct Professor, NYU Stern ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of Lumida ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Perkins⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of 250 Digital Asset Management Guest: Arjun Sethi - Co-CEO of Kraken / Payward and Chairman of Tribe Capital Timestamps 💰 01:08 Kraken has spent $2.75B on M&A in 12 months. Which deal would Arjun defend most? 🌍 07:33 Institutions aren’t buying tokenized equities. So who is the target customer? 📈 10:54 Derivatives are 95% of crypto volume. Where does Bitnomial fit? 🔑 14:12 Arjun on what actually drives Kraken's next three years ☠️ 20:44 What keeps Arjun up at night and what problems he potentially sees in crypto 🏛️ 22:48 Why the SEC paused tokenized equity rules, and who's really to blame 🚀 31:15 Could 24/7 crypto rails make Wall Street's IPO machine obsolete? 📣 42:05 Coinbase: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at https://coinbase.com/unchained ⛪ 43:56 Why it matters that Pope Leo mentioned crypto in his AI encyclical 👀 49:38 How the pope's decentralization argument tracks with the Bitcoin white paper Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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In an AI Agent World, Do Money Markets Win Over Stablecoins? - Bits + Bips
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In an AI Agent World, Do Money Markets Win Over Stablecoins? - Bits + Bips

USDC became Hyperliquid's stablecoin infrastructure, and the 30-year broke 5% for the first time since 2008. Austin, Ram, Chris, and Gordon Liao of Circle work through who wins. --- Thank you to our sponsor! ⁠Coinbase One⁠: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at ⁠coinbase.com/unchained⁠. Heads up! If you haven’t yet, be sure to subscribe to Bits + Bips, since the show will migrate there in a few weeks. Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Unchained⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and wherever you get your podcasts. ---- Coinbase and Circle have moved into Hyperliquid, installing USDC as its aligned quote asset and taking over treasury and technical deployment. For Gordon Liao, Circle's Chief Economist and Head of Research, that is a liquidity supernova. For Chris Perkins, it is the moment every TVL-trapping platform was always going to arrive at. Meanwhile, the CLARITY Act has cleared the Senate Banking Committee on a bipartisan vote, but the ethics question — whether Democrats will vote for a bill that leaves Trump's family holdings untouched — remains unresolved. And as Kevin Warsh is confirmed as Fed chair, the 30-year yield breaks 5% for the first time since 2008. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Austin Campbell (@austincampbell) — Founder, Zero Knowledge Consulting; Adjunct Professor, NYU Stern ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of Lumida ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Perkins⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of 250 Digital Asset Management Guest: Gordon Liao | Master of Coin, Circle Timestamps 🚀 00:00 Introduction 🟡 01:17 Why Coinbase and Circle moved into Hyperliquid and how every TVL trap will monetize its float 🌊 07:14 Gordon: USDC on Hyperliquid is a 'liquidity supernova' 🧑‍⚖️ 12:29 Even though Elon Musk lost, Ram explains why Sam Altman is still a villain 🏃 18:21 Where value will really accrue in the AI race ⛓️💳 24:48 Whether agents will use blockchain rails or just credit cards 🤖 30:59 Why Chris thinks money market funds might win out over stablecoins among AI agents 🏛️ 36:11 CLARITY clears Senate Banking — what's still blocking 60 votes 🧨 41:27 Why Austin thinks the ethics fight is the one problem with no clean answer 📈 46:01 Why, after Warsh's confirmation, the 30-year cleared 5% Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uneasy Money: Why the Broken Pre-IPO Secondary Markets Won't Be Fixed Anytime Soon
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Uneasy Money: Why the Broken Pre-IPO Secondary Markets Won't Be Fixed Anytime Soon

Anthropic is voiding secondary market trades. Who gets hurt — WhatsApp scammers, Forge buyers, or the founders? Plus: why continuous synthetic pricing is coming for every pre-IPO company. Thank you to our sponsors!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Multichain Advisors: Get help navigating TGEs, go‑to‑market, BD and partnerships, capital markets advisory, PR, media placements, KOL activations and more at multichainadv.com. Coinbase: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at coinbase.com/unchained. Anthropic and OpenAI are moving to void secondary market trades — and Kain, Tay, and Luca think that's only going to work if they're serious about it, which means a lawsuit is probably coming. This week on Uneasy Money they trace the full anatomy of the pre-IPO SPV fraud wave, explain why synthetic perpetual markets will eventually price every in-demand private company continuously whether founders want it or not, and dig into the latest AI hacks. Tay breaks down how attackers are now using local on-device Gemini APIs to construct malware on the fly, and Kain shares the story of an agent that caught a slow-drain attack in 90 seconds that humans missed for 12 hours. Luca explains why Circle's Arc token is a brilliant move for Circle equity holders even if it changes nothing for ETH or Solana. Plus: the Aave/Kelp court update and why the Gerstein lawyers' argument that every victim needs to show up in court is fundamentally incompatible with how onchain recovery works. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Security Expert ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Luca Netz⁠⁠⁠⁠, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Timestamps 📉 0:00 Intro: the Anthropic/OpenAI SPV daisy chain and the 'rocks with Anthropic written on them' problem 📋 4:31 When Luca faced a situation similar to Anthropic’s with Pudgy Penguins 🧱 7:12 Why this shows the secondary SPV market is broken, even catching legit platforms like Forge 🔗 13:11 How onchain synthetic pre-IPO markets, like PreStocks and Ventuals on Solana, work 🕹️ 24:54 The end game for Anthropic/OpenAI with these secondary SPVs 🚫 29:52 Why pre-IPO companies have no incentive to IPO — and why that breaks markets 38:01 ⛓️ : Multichain Advisors: Get help navigating TGEs, go‑to‑market, BD and partnerships, capital markets advisory, PR, media placements, KOL activations and more at multichainadv.com.💙 38:40 Coinbase: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at coinbase.com/unchained. 💥 40:37 Google disrupts AI-mediated attack and how local Gemini APIs have greatly increased surface attack area 🤖 50:05 Why Kain is bullish on continuous monitoring by agents for slow drain attacks ⭕ 59:14 Why members of the crew are confused/bullish/skeptical on Circle's $220M Arc token presale 📈 1:00:51 Is Arc bullish Ethereum? Kain says Circle equity holders win, not ETH bags ⚖️ 1:06:35 Gerstein lawyers' absurd argument in the Aave/Arbitrum/KelpDAO case Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why Arthur Hayes Thinks the AI Bubble Bursting Could Spark a Crypto Bull Market
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Why Arthur Hayes Thinks the AI Bubble Bursting Could Spark a Crypto Bull Market

Arthur Hayes sees one force driving markets right now: governments printing money to finance AI and war. He explains why that ends with Bitcoin much higher — and what could derail it. ======================================================== Thank you to our sponsor! ⁠Coinbase One⁠: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at ⁠coinbase.com/unchained⁠. ======================================================== Maelstrom CIO Arthur Hayes called the Tehran toll booth scenario in writing — and now it's playing out. Sovereign nations are waking up to the fact that dollar assets don't buy oil when the strait is closed. On this episode, Hayes joins Laura Shin to explain why the structural unwinding of petrodollar recycling forces the Fed to print, why an AI deflationary bust could rival 2008 in severity before central banks step in, and why that path ends with Bitcoin substantially higher. He also breaks down his current highest-conviction positions: Hyperliquid, Zcash, and NEAR, and explains why he's deploying into what he calls maximum disillusionment in private crypto equity. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Laura Shin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Host / Unchained Guests: Arthur Hayes — CIO, Maelstrom Timestamps 🚀 0:00 Why Arthur thinks all wars, including the Iran War, are inflationary 🌍 3:01 How the Iran war is causing demand for US treasuries to decline 💙 10:17 Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at coinbase.com/unchained 🪖 12:18 How the Iran War is eroding the dominance of the petrodollar 📊 16:11 Why Arthur watches WTI futures — and when 'all hell breaks loose' ⏸️ 18:16 Why Arthur considered Q1 “a no-trade zone” and his approach to Q2 🏦 20:20 Kevin Warsh as Fed chair: why Arthur says he's a neutral variable 🌏 22:43 How Asia perceives the Iran war and the US-China AI race 🤖 26:28 Two catalysts that Arthur believes could end the AI bull market 💥 31:42 What Arthur sees as a coming AI agentic deflationary bust 😂 36:32 How Arthur actually invests in AI stocks: buy first, research later 🔵 38:42 The Hype thesis: why Hyperliquid got tokenomics right ⚖️ 45:11 Why Zcash is Arthur's largest position outside Bitcoin 🔗 48:24 NEAR as the next shitcoin: the Zcash-Near integration thesis 🔐 50:26 On-chain risk, the Kelpout hack, and what teams get wrong 🏢 53:12 Maelstrom update: fundraising and why now is the right time to deploy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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DEX in the City: Will the CLARITY Act Pass? Three Crypto Lawyers Give Their Odds
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DEX in the City: Will the CLARITY Act Pass? Three Crypto Lawyers Give Their Odds

As a new CLARITY Act draft dropped, KK, Vy, and guest Josh Riezman of GSR give their passage odds and explain the one developer protection provision that matters most. Thanks to our sponsor! Coinbase One Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan ⁠coinbase.com/unchained⁠ A new draft of the CLARITY Act just landed — all 300-plus pages of it — and Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos, TuongVy Le, and guest Josh Riezman of GSR didn't wait to dig in. On this episode they break down the specific developer protection provision in the Blockchain Regulatory Certainty Act that introduces a specific intent standard for charging developers, debate passage odds, and explain why Circle releasing a token as a public company signals a real shift in how the SEC thinks about the security/token distinction. They also unpack Chair Atkins' remarks at the SEC's AI+ Expo — a speech Vy argues shows the SEC and Congress are now in lockstep on modernizing securities regulation for on-chain infrastructure — and why, for the first time, that infrastructure includes vaults. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at StarkWare. Previously held senior legal roles across DeFi and centralized exchanges. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TuongVy Le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at Veda Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Josh Riezman — Chief Legal and Strategy Officer, GSR Timestamps ⚖️ 0:00 Intro — new CLARITY Act draft drops; why there’s still a lot of work to do 📜 5:27 Blockchain Regulatory Certainty Aact developer protections and why the “specific intent” standard is so important 🏦 11:06 How TradFi actually feels about crypto market structure legislation 📊 14:45 What CLARITY must achieve: the US as the center for crypto innovation and the security/commodity line 🎰 18:11 Lightning round — passage odds: KK at 35%, Vy at 90%, Josh at 45% 🌸 21:32 Does the recent M&A wave, massive VC raises and Circle's Arc token presale mean it’s crypto spring? 💙 27:41 Coinbase: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at coinbase.com/unchained 📈 29:39 The least bearish bear market in history — RWA wave and institutional onchain demand ♀️ 33:41 The E11even controversy: ‘Maybe we should just not have strippers at official events.’ 🎤 34:56 SEC Chair Paul Atkins'  speech recognizing that onchain infrastructure can achieve the same goals as TradFi rails 📚 43:00 The education gap: most legislators still at Bitcoin-level crypto knowledge 🤖 46:46 AI good news: Redmod AI system may detect pancreatic cancer early Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Why the AI Rally Keeps Growing — and Why Circle Launched Arc
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Bits + Bips: Why the AI Rally Keeps Growing — and Why Circle Launched Arc

Ram says the entire market is now one giant AI trade. Chris argues the boom is backed by real fundamentals. Austin asks: is AI creating value for the right companies? --- Thank you to our sponsor! Coinbase One: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at coinbase.com/unchained. Heads up! If you haven’t yet, be sure to subscribe to Bits + Bips, since the show will migrate there in a few weeks. Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Unchained⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and wherever you get your podcasts. ---- Circle just made history as the first publicly traded company to run a token presale, raising $222 million from BlackRock, Apollo, ICE, and a16z at a $3 billion valuation — and the stock went up. At the same time, Coinbase reported a $394 million loss, cut 700 jobs, and suffered a five-hour outage. Ram, Austin, and Chris work through what's really happening: whether Circle's Arc is the institutional payment rail the industry has been waiting for or a financial engineering play, whether Coinbase's troubles are cyclical or structural, and whether the AI-driven market rally is a bubble forming or a fundamental shift that makes the dotcom comparison wrong. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Austin Campbell (@austincampbell) — Founder, Zero Knowledge Consulting; Adjunct Professor, NYU Stern ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of Lumida ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Perkins⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of 250 Digital Asset Management Timestamps 🚀 0:00 Introduction and Iran ceasefire update 🛢️ 1:02 What Ram and Chris are watching in oil and Hormuz 📊 4:49 Why markets are shrugging off geopolitical noise 🤖 13:25 Ram on why the market is all one giant bet on AI 💬 16:03 Is the AI rally a bubble or a fundamental shift? 🏦 27:04 Circle launches Arc: could its token compete with its own stock? 📉 40:21 Coinbase: were the layoffs due to AI or the bear market? 🎭 48:26 What it says about the industry that Consensus’s afterparty was at E11even The Crypto Industry’s Maturity Problem Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Coinbase's Chief Policy Officer on Why He Believes the Clarity Act Will Pass
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Coinbase's Chief Policy Officer on Why He Believes the Clarity Act Will Pass

Coinbase's chief policy officer explains why the bank lobby failed to kill stablecoin rewards — and what 'workable compromise' actually means for crypto users. ======================================================== Thank you to our sponsors! Adaptive Security: Test and strengthen your company’s defenses against AI deepfakes and synthetic identities at adaptivesecurity.com. Coinbase One: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at coinbase.com/unchained. ======================================================== The Genius Act established that stablecoin issuers could pay rewards to users. The banks said no. For months, the American Bankers Association used the Clarity Act as a pressure point to reverse that decision — tying up a bill that was supposed to govern an entirely different corner of crypto. Now there's compromise language. Coinbase's chief policy officer, Faryar Shirzad, says it's workable. The banks say it doesn't go far enough. Meanwhile, the Clarity Act itself is racing toward a July 4th deadline, with a Senate Banking Committee markup expected the week of May 14. Ethics provisions around government officials holding crypto assets remain the hardest open question — and, as Shirzad puts it, one entirely above his pay grade. This is where the biggest crypto legislation in US history actually stands. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Laura Shin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Host / Unchained Guests: Faryar Shirzad (@faryarshirzad) — Chief Policy Officer, Coinbase Timestamps 🎙️ 0:00 Introduction 💰 0:43 What the Clarity Act's stablecoin rewards compromise means in practice 🏦 4:04 What the banks got, what crypto kept — and why rewards are still workable ⚖️ 7:51 The American Bankers Association pushes back — is this fight really over? 🔵 13:36 Coinbase One ad: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan 🔒 14:58 Adaptive Security ad: Run deep fake AI generated phishing and vising simulations 📋 15:55 Getting the Clarity Act over the finish line — what's still unresolved? 🔑 18:54 Remaining issues, such as ethics, SEC exemptive relief, whether DeFi apps are money transmitters 🗓️ 28:27 Can the Clarity Act pass by July 4th? What happens if it doesn't? 🌍 32:33 What's next after the Clarity Act — taxes, rulemaking, and global expansion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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A16z Crypto Raised $2.2 Billion for Fund 5. Here's How They Plan to Deploy It
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A16z Crypto Raised $2.2 Billion for Fund 5. Here's How They Plan to Deploy It

From AI agents as economic actors to quantum threats and prediction market regulation, Ali Yahya of a16z lays out the investment thesis behind a16z crypto's fifth fund. ======================================================== Thank you to our sponsor! Coinbase One 20% off first year of annual plan + $50 Bitcoin bonus. Offer valid until May 31. coinbase.com/unchained ======================================================== a16z crypto just closed its fifth crypto fund at $2.2 billion — smaller than its previous fund, but the firm says that's deliberate. General Partner Ali Yahya argues we are entering a different phase of crypto's development: one where infrastructure is ready, regulatory clarity is arriving, and the competition for real users has begun in earnest. Two themes sit at the center of a16z's thesis — the collision of crypto and FinTech, and the emergence of AI agents as economic actors. But Yahya's most striking claim may be about blockchains themselves: that performance is no longer a moat, privacy is. And that the chains which get privacy right will accrue stronger network effects than anything the industry has built before. What does a world of privacy-dominant blockchains do to DeFi composability, to security, to the ability to track hackers? And where does the quantum threat actually stand? Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Laura Shin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Host / Unchained Guests: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ali Yahya, General Partner, a16z crypto Timestamps 🚀 0:00 Introduction — Why a16z crypto raised its $2.2B Fund 5 now 💰 2:50 The two big investment themes: fintech x crypto and AI x crypto 🔒 9:25 Why Ali believes privacy is the most important moat in crypto ⛓️ 14:31 How the three privacy approaches compare: centralized sequencers, TEEs, zk tech 🔐 18:32 What happens to security in a world of privacy chains? 🧩 28:48 When privacy chains dominate, can we still have DeFi money Legos? 🤖 34:12 Ali's AI background and how agents will enter the financial system 🎨 43:55 What AI x crypto means for entrepreneurs and creative types ⚠️ 49:13 The quantum threat — why Ali says we have 10-15 years 📊 51:58 Prediction markets and insider trading — where the line is Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ex-Ethereum Foundation Researchers Launched Their Own Lab: Uneasy Money
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Ex-Ethereum Foundation Researchers Launched Their Own Lab: Uneasy Money

An anti-MEV activist spent weeks building 66 fake contracts to trap the sandwich bot jaredfromsubway.eth. Then jared's operators did the one thing nobody expected. ======================================================== Thank you to our sponsors! Cape: Your biggest crypto vulnerability isn't your wallet, it's your phone number. Cape is America's privacy-first mobile carrier that rotates your SIM identity daily and blocks SIM swaps before they happen. Get 33% off your first six months at https://cape.co/unchained (use code: UNCHAINED). ======================================================== A new R&D lab called Ethlabs has split from the Ethereum Foundation, backed by Bitmine and Joe Lubin. Its first stated goal is solving a '15 minute finality problem' that none of the hosts can quite explain the point of. Kain Warwick, Taylor Monahan, and Luca Netz ask whether a breakaway staffed largely by ex-EF people can really escape the EF's habits, or just rebuild a smaller version of them. Then the conversation turns to fomo's $75M raise from non-crypto VCs, and why a trading app that never calls itself a wallet may have cracked the onboarding flow the rest of crypto keeps getting wrong. The hosts also trace a CryptoPunks judge ordering a self-represented plaintiff to handwrite filings to stop the AI slop, the anti-MEV activist who trapped sandwich bot jaredfromsubway.eth with 66 fake contracts, and the WSJ's claim that Polymarket paid creators to stage fake winning bets. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Security Expert ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Luca Netz⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Timestamps 🧪 02:06 Ethlabs breaks from the EF: what the new R&D lab is actually for 🤔 03:57 Why the 'fifteen minute finality' framing baffles the hosts 📈 15:40 fomo's $75M raise and why a no-token trading app pulled it off 🧱 21:45 The wallet lesson: why building for trading beats building for custody 💙 30:48 Cape: Get 33% off your first six months at https://cape.co/unchained ⚖️ 31:44 The CryptoPunks lawsuit where a judge ordered AI-slop filings handwritten 🥪 41:04 What a sandwich bot is and why jaredfromsubway.eth became infamous 🪤 45:34 How an anti-MEV activist trapped Jared with 66 fake token contracts 🏛️ 50:46 Why Jared running to the courts under the CFAA makes no sense 😤 56:36 Kain on the exploiter who cries foul when someone finally steals from him 📺 59:20 The WSJ claim that Polymarket paid creators to stage fake winning bets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: The CLARITY Act, Hyperliquid vs CME, and the Prediction Market Supreme Court Showdown
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The Chopping Block: The CLARITY Act, Hyperliquid vs CME, and the Prediction Market Supreme Court Showdown

Rebecca from Jito Labs joins Haseeb, Tom, and Tarun for a regulation deep-dive covering the CLARITY Act's stablecoin yield compromise and presidential ethics sticking points, CME and ICE's lobbying war against Hyperliquid's RWA perps, the prediction market legal battle heading to the Supreme Court, and whether the SEC's tokenized securities innovation exemption will actually matter. Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, joining us is Rebecca Rettig, Chief Legal Officer at Jito Labs, who's here to help the crew make sense of the absolute regulatory tornado tearing through the industry. First up: the CLARITY Act. It just got out of Senate Banking Committee, but the road to passage is anything but smooth. The stablecoin yield fight with banks ended in a "do stuff yield" compromise, but presidential ethics provisions remain the last polarizing hurdle. Rebecca breaks down what actually changes for token founders if it passes — spoiler: not much immediately, since rulemaking alone could take years. Then: CME and ICE have declared war on Hyperliquid, lobbying the Hill to force CFTC registration on the decentralized perps giant. The crew debates who actually wins US regulated perps, whether Hyperliquid's pre-IPO markets represent a genuine threat to investment banking, and Rebecca introduces "on-chain finance" — a distinction the panel immediately roasts her for. Finally: prediction markets are in a legal bloodbath across state courts with a Supreme Court showdown likely by 2027, and the SEC's tokenized securities innovation exemption has Twitter buzzing but Rebecca skeptical. Let's get into it. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 CLARITY Act Passes Senate Banking – Landmark crypto bill advances with bipartisan support, but presidential ethics provisions remain the final sticking point before a full Senate floor vote. 🔹 Stablecoin Yield Compromise – Banks screamed bloody murder, but the "do stuff yield" deal means transaction-based rewards are in and bank deposit lookalikes are out. 🔹 CME & ICE vs Hyperliquid – Traditional exchanges lobby Congress to force CFTC registration, KYC/AML, and trade surveillance on the decentralized perps giant. 🔹 Hyperliquid Prices Cerebras Better Than Bankers – Pre-IPO market nails the opening price while investment banks undershoot by over 100%, raising questions about the future of book building. 🔹 Rebecca Rettig Returns – Jito Labs CLO breaks down what CLARITY actually means for token founders (spoiler: not much changes immediately — rulemaking takes years). 🔹 Prediction Markets Head to SCOTUS – Legal bloodbath across state courts likely culminates in a Supreme Court showdown by 2027 over CFTC vs state gaming jurisdiction. 🔹 The Super Bowl Coin Toss Traded at 58/42 – Tarun surfaces the most absurd prediction market of the year, and the CFTC chair basically says it shouldn't exist. 🔹 Who Wins US Regulated Perps? – Haseeb bets on Coinbase and Robinhood, Tarun argues there's an opening for a dark horse, and Rebecca flags HIP 4's unified margin as a game-changer. 🔹 SEC Innovation Exemption Buzz – Twitter is hyped about tokenized securities guidance, but Rebecca is skeptical it drops before CLARITY is resolved. 🔹 OnFi Is Not Going to Happen – Rebecca tries to coin "on-chain finance" as distinct from DeFi. The panel roasts her. Mean Girls memes are inevitable. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Guest⭐️ Rebecca Rettig, Jurisprudential Genius at Jito Labs Timestamps 00:00 Intro 02:10 The CLARITY Act: Banks vs Crypto 05:21 The "Do Stuff Yield" Compromise 07:18 The Compromise: Transaction-Based Rewards 10:22 Presidential Ethics: The Last Sticking Point 12:26 What Actually Changes If CLARITY Passes? 16:01 Token Founders: What Do You Have to Do? 18:41 Developer Protection & DeFi Activity 20:15 CME & ICE Lobbying Against Hyperliquid 26:05 On-Chain Finance vs DeFi 29:57 Who Wins US Regulated Perps? 34:39 ETF Options vs Crypto Perps 40:24 What Hyperliquid Means for Investment Banking 44:50 Retail IPO Participation & Dynamic Share Counts 49:25 Prediction Markets: Kalshi & Polymarket vs the States 51:40 Supreme Court Showdown: CFTC vs State Gaming Laws 58:30 Economic Impact Test 01:01:47 Tokenized Securities & the SEC Innovation Exemption 01:06:41 Do Issuers Actually Care About Tokenization? Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why Wrapped Energy or Compute Will Be the New Store of Value: Bits + Bips
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Why Wrapped Energy or Compute Will Be the New Store of Value: Bits + Bips

Missiles in the Strait of Hormuz. Brent jumps 5%. Bitcoin breaks through $80. The Bits + Bips crew reads the geopolitical tape — and explains why crypto is shrugging it off. --- Thank you to our sponsor! Coinbase One — coinbase.com/unchained Heads up! If you haven’t yet, be sure to subscribe to Bits + Bips, since the show will migrate there in a few weeks. Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Unchained⁠⁠⁠⁠ and wherever you get your podcasts. ---- Iranian cruise missiles struck commercial vessels in the Strait of Hormuz, Brent jumped 5%, and Bitcoin broke through $80 — all in the same day. The Bits + Bips crew unpacks what the escalation means for crypto and macro positioning, why Ram stays bullish, and whether Paul Tudor Jones is right that Bitcoin is now the best inflation hedge. They also break down the Clarity Act’s yield compromise — with Circle up 16% — and why Austin argues banks may have handed asset managers a structural win. Finally, a U.S. court filing targeting Arbitrum’s frozen North Korean funds raises a bigger question: can you serve legal papers on code, and what does that mean for DAO governance? Austin Campbell, Ram Ahluwalia, and Chris Perkins break it all down. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Austin Campbell (@austincampbell) — Founder, Zero Knowledge Consulting; Adjunct Professor, NYU Stern ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of Lumida ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Perkins⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of 250 Digital Asset Management Timestamps ⚔️ 1:06 Iran strikes in the Strait of Hormuz — what's happening on the ground 📈 3:14 Why Bitcoin ripped through $80 while equities sold off 🛢️ 6:47 Ram's macro read: markets one day from all-time highs, stay bullish 🪙 17:45 What to make of Paul Tudor Jones calling Bitcoin the best inflation hedge ⚡ 20:58 Chris's thesis: the future store of value is wrapped energy or wrapped compute 🏛️ 37:29 Clarity Act yield compromise: did crypto win, did banks win, did anyone win? ⚖️ 48:47 What happens now that there’s a lawsuit against Arbitrum for freezing funds stolen by North Korea 🔐 51:47 Can DeFi achieve mass adoption without resolving the security question? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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DEX in the City: With the Stablecoin Yield Compromise, Can the Clarity Act Get Passed?
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DEX in the City: With the Stablecoin Yield Compromise, Can the Clarity Act Get Passed?

Seven lawsuits blame OpenAI for enabling a mass shooting. Could the same legal theory come for DeFi? Thanks to our sponsor! Coinbase One Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan coinbase.com/unchained Seven families just sued OpenAI in federal court, arguing ChatGPT was a defective product that helped plan a mass shooting. OpenAI's own safety team flagged the risk eight months earlier and did nothing. The legal theory being tested here, that software developers can be held liable for foreseeable misuse of their tools, is the same theory that has been circling DeFi for years. Meanwhile, April ended as the most hacked month in crypto history, with over $600 million stolen in roughly 30 exploits, most of them linked to North Korea and its weapons programs. DeFi United, a $300M relief coalition led by Aave, emerged as the industry's response. KK, Vy, and Jessi unpack what it means when the 'code is law' defense starts to crack, why basic operational security is still not standard practice, and how close the Clarity Act actually is to crossing the finish line. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at StarkWare. Previously held senior legal roles across DeFi and centralized exchanges. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jessi Brooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TuongVy Le⁠⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at Veda Timestamps 🚀 0:00 Introduction 🤖 2:44 How several lawsuits claiming AI companies have liability for defective products has warning signs for DeFi 🔓 12:11 April: the most hacked month in crypto history. Who’s being social engineered now? 🛡️ 16:01 Why basic OpSec failures are still enabling North Korea's hackers 💸 18:17 Is the $300M raised by DeFi United a bailout or solidarity? 📜 26:41 The Clarity Act stablecoin yield compromise: what changed and what's left 🐶 36:47 Crypto good news: Dogecoin and Moonpay donate 1M DOGE to dogs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uneasy Money: Who Owns Stolen Crypto? The $71M Fight Testing DeFi Limits
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Uneasy Money: Who Owns Stolen Crypto? The $71M Fight Testing DeFi Limits

A legal battle over frozen KelpDAO hack funds is forcing DeFi to answer questions it has long avoided. Thank you to our sponsors!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Coinbase One: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at coinbase.com/unchained. Multichain Advisors: Get help navigating TGEs, go‑to‑market, BD and partnerships, capital markets advisory, PR, media placements, KOL activations and more at multichainadv.com. When the Arbitrum Security Council froze $71 million in funds tied to the KelpDAO  hack, it was hailed as vigilante justice. Now lawyers representing families of North Korea's victims are claiming that same money in a New York federal courtroom, as if theft transfers title. Meanwhile, an AI agent running on Base got robbed via a prompt injection hidden in Morse code, and Coinbase cited artificial intelligence when announcing 14% layoffs. Kain Warwick, Taylor Monahan, Luca Netz, and Kelsie Nabben, author of Decentralised Digital Security, work through what DeFi's security layer actually is, who gets to decide when to act, and whether any of it survives the arrival of autonomous agents. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Security Expert ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Luca Netz⁠⁠⁠, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsie Nabben, Research Fellow at RMIT University — Author of 'Decentralized Digital Security: Code, Community, Crisis' (2025) Timestamps 🚀 0:00 Introduction ⚖️ 1:55 The $71M legal battle over Arbitrum-frozen KelpDAO hack funds 🔍 7:44 But legally, are those funds DPRK’s? Would that claim hold up in court? 🏛️ 9:16 Why stealing funds doesn’t transfer ownership 🕵️ 14:15 The vigilante security layer in DeFi: who acts and who hides behind 'decentralization' 🧑‍⚖️ 21:13 Questions the judge asked the first day of the Gerstein case 👮 26:24 When Kain was also sued by Gerstein … and Luca was also served 🔵 35:30 Coinbase One ad: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan ⛓️ 37:01 Multichain Advisors ad: Get help navigating TGEs, go to market, BD, partnerships and more 🤖 37:44 BankrBot prompt-injected via Morse code: the LLM-to-LLM attack surface 🛡️ 43:38 Can DeFi survive the agents? AI security risks and what 'blast radius' means 🏢 59:18 Coinbase's 14% layoff and what it really says about AI and org structure Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ben Fielding: Gensyn, Decentralized AI, and the Prediction Market That Settles Itself: Bits + Bips
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Ben Fielding: Gensyn, Decentralized AI, and the Prediction Market That Settles Itself: Bits + Bips

A prediction market trades on outcomes. An information market trades on knowledge. Fielding makes the case for the latter. --- Heads up! If you haven’t yet, be sure to subscribe to Bits + Bips, since the show will migrate there in a few weeks. Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Unchained⁠⁠⁠⁠ and wherever you get your podcasts. ---- What if the biggest constraint on AI is not compute or data, but trust? Ben Fielding, CEO and co-founder of Gensys, spent years as a machine learning researcher before concluding that decentralized hardware was the only path to true scale, and that blockchain was the only technology that could make machines trust each other without human intermediaries. With the launch of Delphi, Gensys's onchain information market built on an OP stack L2, Fielding puts his theory to the test while making the case that prediction markets have been asking the wrong question all along, and that the long tail of markets no one has thought to create yet is where the real opportunity lies. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steve Ehrlich, Head of Research at SharpLink and Host of Bits + Bips: The Interview - https://x.com/Steven_Ehrlich Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Fielding, CEO & Co-Founder, Gensys @BenFielding Timestamps 🔗 07:47 Why AI and blockchain were always meant to solve the same problem ✅ 11:16 The three things AI agents need to transact -- and the one that didn't exist yet 🤔 14:56 How do you build against trillion-dollar data centers? 📊 15:59 Why calling Delphi a prediction market is selling it short 🌾 25:05 The orange farmer who could never hedge drought risk -- until now ⚖️ 37:33 The markets no society should allow, and how Delphi stops them 🪙 41:02 Why every airdrop after the first one was a mistake 🔐 46:56 After KelpDAO: how Gensyn thinks about security differently Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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After April's $606 Million in DeFi Hacks, What's the Fair Value Yield Rate?
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After April's $606 Million in DeFi Hacks, What's the Fair Value Yield Rate?

$606 million in DeFi exploits in one month. Two of the space's sharpest risk thinkers debate whether lenders are being paid anywhere close to enough. ======================================================== Thank you to our sponsors! Coinbase One 20% off first year of annual plan + $50 Bitcoin bonus. Offer valid until May 31. coinbase.com/unchained Citrea Bitcoin changed how money works. Satya changes how Bitcoin scales. citrea.xyz/unchained ======================================================== One month, $606 million in exploits. And yet DeFi lending yields for blue-chip collateral sit close to SOFR, as if nothing happened. Tom Dunleavy, head of venture at Varys Capital, did the math and concluded that fair risk-adjusted DeFi yields should sit around 12.5%. Adrian Cachinero Vasiljevic, co-founder of Steakhouse Financial, thinks that number paints with too broad a brush, and that for the right primitives, with the right collateral, the market rate might actually be close to correct. Host Laura Shin queries them on the TradFi equations that underpin the debate, the DeFi-specific risks that those equations miss, and on whether depositors are sleepwalking into tail risk they cannot fully see. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Laura Shin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Host / Unchained Guests: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Tom Dunleavy, Head of Venture, Varys Capital — @dunleavy89 Adrian Cachinero Vasiljevic, Co-Founder, Steakhouse Financial — @adcv_ Timestamps 🔥 01:14 How Tom and Adrian are rethink yield rates after $606M worth of DeFi hacks in one month 📊 08:46 How TradFi prices risk, and why the same framework still applies to DeFi ⚠️ 13:54 The DeFi-specific risks TradFi can't model: hacks, oracles, governance, exotic collateral 🔢 18:20 Adrian on why loss-given-default in DeFi is 'almost total', and what that changes 🤝 23:52 Where Tom and Adrian actually disagree: resolution, not structure 📉 32:34 Luca Prosperi's additions: continuous collateral observation, liquidation timing, legal process 💬 41:49 Dan Robinson's pushback: if risk is mispriced, shouldn't demand fix it? 🏗️ 53:59 RWAs as collateral: why non-crypto-native assets may be the most dangerous mismatch 🔭 57:19 Which protocols actually reduce the risk premium, and how to think about the rest Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Pump.fun’s $370M Burn Was a Mistake, Says Luca Netz: Uneasy Money
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Pump.fun’s $370M Burn Was a Mistake, Says Luca Netz: Uneasy Money

Pump.fun set fire to $370 million in tokens. Luca lays out the airdrop math that says they should have done the opposite. Thank you to our sponsors!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ MultiChain Advisors is an emerging technology growth firm that has helped create $50B+ in enterprise value for 80+ clients over the past 4 years. They're the partner to help navigate markets. Build real traction today at ⁠multichainadv.com⁠ Pump.fun had a choice with $370 million worth of its own tokens. It burned them. On this week’s Uneasy Money, Luca Netz argues that was the worst option on the table. He lays out the “people’s champ” math that, in his view, could have turned Pump.fun into a $5 billion-a-year business if Alon Cohen had launched the biggest airdrop crypto has ever seen—and bought the tokens back at the bottom. Kain Warwick and Taylor Monahan also dig into the 137,000 ETH community effort to plug the KelpDAO hole, why Tay thinks Aave—not Layer Zero or KelpDAO—is the key player in DeFi’s latest blowup, and Luca’s blunt new take on whether DeFi yield is even worth the risk right now. Plus: Meta paying creators in USDC, the ghost of Libra, and OpenAI’s leaked AI-native phone. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Security Expert ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Luca Netz⁠, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Timestamps 🩸 01:23 137K ETH drive to cover KelpDAO losses 🪤 07:40 Is DeFi yield actually paying you for tail risk? Tom Dunleavy thinks no 💀 18:08 Luca on whether the DeFi yield game is even worth playing right now ⚖️ 22:13 The ‘Aave users were idiots’ take, and why Tay wants no moral-hazard talk 💸 27:29 Meta is paying creators in USDC. The Instagram stablecoin pipe is on 🪦 33:31 How Facebook’s 2019 Libra blunder helped birth the Gensler era of crypto 🔥 40:55 Pump.fun burned $370M of tokens. Luca says that was the wrong call 📱 58:10 OpenAI’s AI-native phone, and why Kain says the OS is dumber than the apps Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: Defi United’s “Bailout,” MegaETH’s KPI Vesting, and Prediction Market Chaos
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The Chopping Block: Defi United’s “Bailout,” MegaETH’s KPI Vesting, and Prediction Market Chaos

Is the era of protocol bailouts upon us? The Chopping Block crew and MegaETH's Shuyao Kong debate Defi United’s community-funded rescue, the KPI vesting experiment shaking up token launches, whether DeFi yields truly underprice risk, and the first major PolyMarket insider trading bust—all delivered with the usual insider banter you won’t hear anywhere else. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, the squad is joined by MegaETH co-founder Shuyao Kong, fresh off their headline-making KPI-gated token launch. First, we dive into the whirlwind that is Defi United: a who’s-who of Ethereum OGs and protocols pledging hundreds of millions to fill bailout holes from the massive KelpDAO hack—voluntarily. Are we witnessing a new age of protocol do-gooder vibes or just kicking the moral hazard can down the road? Then, we tear into the “are DeFi yields way too low” debate, prodded by Tom Dunleavy’s viral thread—should degens really be earning more for taking protocol risk, or are the markets just as weird as they seem? Shuyao gives us an under-the-hood look at MegaETH’s radical KPI vesting mechanics, why they made the token vesting play risky pre-TGE, and whether dynamic tokenomics could be the industry’s way forward (with plenty of banter about airdrop farming and governance theater along the way). Finally, we spin through the saga of PolyMarket’s big DOJ insider trading bust: is “insider info” a feature or a bug in prediction markets? All that, history lessons, cynicism, and more—let’s get into it. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 Defi United’s “bailout”—how a crowd-sourced effort filled the KelpDAO hack hole and melted crypto Twitter 🔹 Are protocol donations precedent-setting, a warning shot, or just vibes maxing? 🔹 Inside debates about moral hazard, socialized losses, and why kumbaya only works once 🔹 Surprising names (and missing ones!) from the bailout contributor list: Consensys, Mantle, Lido, Arbitrum, Circle, more 🔹 Why airdrop farmers sending dust is the most on-brand thing for crypto 🔹 The “are DeFi yields too low?” debate and why the true risk-free rate may be a myth in DeFi 🔹 MegaETH’s “KPI vesting” tokenomics—how gating TGEs by actual ecosystem milestones might fix launch incentives 🔹 Insight on why pre-TGE KPI mechanics might actually be the future (and why most fail after launch) 🔹 PolyMarket’s first big insider trading bust—when is secret alpha “market info” and when is it treason? 🔹 Vintage history, cyber insurance analogies, and philosophical banter you can only get on TCB Hosts ⭐️ Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️ Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️ Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Guest ⭐️ Shuyao Kong, Co-founder at MegaETH Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How Microsoft Won the OpenAI Fight as Markets Rally on Iran
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How Microsoft Won the OpenAI Fight as Markets Rally on Iran

One side wins the OpenAI-Microsoft divorce, Ram calls a 19% earnings growth year 'bananas,' and Chris wants the US to hack back against DeFi exploiters. Here is the full rundown. --- Heads up! If you haven’t yet, be sure to subscribe to Bits + Bips, since the show will migrate there in a few weeks. Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Unchained⁠⁠⁠ and wherever you get your podcasts. ---- Chris Perkins and Ram Ahluwalia cover a lot of ground this week: Iran appears to be seeking a deal to end the Strait of Hormuz blockade as US economic pressure mounts, and the US government just worked with Tether to seize over $300 million in Iranian-linked stablecoins. Bottoms-up S&P earnings estimates are running at 19% year-over-year growth, tech earnings are about to hit, and both hosts think the setup for markets is unusually constructive. They also break down the new Microsoft-OpenAI agreement, the arrest of a special operations soldier for betting on the Maduro raid on Polymarket, and what the Kelp DAO hack means for DeFi's path to institutional adoption. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of Lumida ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Perkins⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of 250 Digital Asset Management Timestamps 🕊️ 01:41 Iran wants a deal. What the blockade is doing to its oil exports 💰 05:53 How Tether helped the US seize $300M from Iran 📈 06:18 Ram on why 19% earnings growth is 'bananas' and what it means 🤖 09:55 Microsoft and OpenAI rewrite their deal. Why Microsoft won 🔐 22:28 Why Bitcoin-gold is the chart to watch 🏛️ 34:09 Why the Clarity Act may be stalled over Democrats’ concerns over Trump’s crypto conflicts 🎯 36:16 A soldier bet on the Maduro raid and got arrested. Right call? 📊 42:52 How prediction markets are changing investing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How Morpho Survived a $300M DeFi Hack With Only $1M Exposure
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How Morpho Survived a $300M DeFi Hack With Only $1M Exposure

People think of Aave and Morpho as competitors. But Morpho only lost $1 million when North Korea drained $300M from a DeFi protocol. The architecture explains why. ======================================================== Thank you to our sponsors! Coinbase One 20% off first year of annual plan + $50 Bitcoin bonus. Offer valid until May 31. coinbase.com/unchained Citrea Bitcoin changed how money works. Satya changes how Bitcoin scales. citrea.xyz/unchained Ether.fi 15% cash back on food and ride apps, 3% on everything else. ether.fi/unchained ======================================================== After North Korea's Lazarus Group drained nearly $300 million from Kelp DAO's bridge, the contagion spread fast, leaving close to $200 million in bad debt on Aave. Morpho, one of the largest lending protocols in DeFi, ended up with about $1 million in exposure. Paul Frambot, co-founder and CEO of Morpho, explains why the protocol's modular, isolated architecture produced a different outcome, and what it reveals about how DeFi lending is supposed to work. He also addresses the ongoing debate over whether DeFi lenders are fairly compensated for risk, the institutional reaction to the hack and what it means for the sector's timeline, the moral complexity of Arbitrum's decision to freeze stolen funds, and why formal verification may be DeFi's last line of defense in an age of increasingly powerful AI. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Laura Shin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Host / Unchained Guests: ⁠Paul Frambot, Co-founder and CEO of Morpho Labs Timestamps 🦋 02:25 How Morpho ended up with only a $1M shortfall when Lazarus stole $300M from Aave 🔑 05:43 Are DeFi lenders being compensated for the risk they take? 🏛 11:12 What the Kelp-LayerZero blame game reveals about DeFi risk 🔍 14:01 Morpho's 'Etherscan for lending' model, and how to pick a vault 📞 15:53 Paul's calls with institutions after the hack, and what they said 🤔 24:08 Arbitrum froze $71M of stolen funds. Was that the right call? 🚀 29:54 Why Paul thinks DeFi 2.0 is just getting started 🤖 33:31 Why AI makes DeFi an open target, and the one defense that still works Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Arbitrum Froze $70M From North Korea? Griff Green on the Decision + Miguel Morel on the Hack
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Arbitrum Froze $70M From North Korea? Griff Green on the Decision + Miguel Morel on the Hack

KelpDAO’s hackers left telltale signs pointing to one culprit, North Korea. Then, in a surprise move, the Arbitrum Security Council decided to fight back. ======================================================== Thank you to our sponsors! As Bitcoin's application layer, Citrea gives you access to the first trust-minimized BTC on a fully programmable platform and a native stablecoin for Bitcoin, ctUSD. You can now participate in Bitcoin capital markets with lending, privacy, payments, Bitcoin yield, trading and predictions. You get expanded Bitcoin utility without sacrificing its security. Citrea mainnet is live. Put your BTC to work at citrea.xyz/unchained. Ether.fi is giving Unchained listeners 15% cashback on food and ride apps — and that's on top of the 3% you get on everything else. Your bank is charging you to use your own money. Laura switched and loves her card! Go to ether.fi/unchained to claim your offer. Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at http://nexo.com/unchained ======================================================== In this episode about the hack on KelpDAO that had a broad impact across all of DeFi, Miguel Morel of Arkham, explains what digital fingerprints made it clear North Korea was the likely hacker, plus how it is that Arkham’s users are using the platform to figure out how to get their bad debt out of Aave and when. Then Griff Green, a member of the Arbitrum Security Council, explains some of the reasoning that went into the decision to freeze $71 million of the funds stolen by DPRK, how the surprise move worked technically, and why blockchains are immutable only by social consensus — and how even Bitcoin could be changed by social consensus. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Laura Shin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Host / Unchained Guests: Miguel Morel, CEO of Arkham Intelligence Griff Green, Arbitrum Security Council Member, Leader of the DAO Security Fund, Co-founder of Giveth Timestamps 🎤 0:00 Introduction: Griff's history with the DAO hack and how he joined the Security Council 🔑 0:53 How North Korea's 48-hour pause made the Arbitrum freeze possible ⚙️ 5:09 Forced inclusion: how an L1 transaction froze funds without touching a single node 🏛️ 8:01 What the Arbitrum Security Council is and who's on it 🤔 14:31 Why Griff initially opposed the freeze and what changed his mind 🗣️ 19:17 Why social consensus, not immutability, is blockchain's real accountability layer ⚖️ 26:23 How the crypto community has responded and what Gabe Shapiro got right 🛡️ 34:31 Why Ethereum is secure but not safe, and the DAO Security Fund's mission Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Did Arbitrum Violate DRPK's Property Rights? No, Because It Wasn't Their Property
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Did Arbitrum Violate DRPK's Property Rights? No, Because It Wasn't Their Property

The $300M KelpDAO exploit became a watershed moment for DeFi, and the Arbitrum Security Council voted froze $70M worth of stolen funds. Is this a slippery slope or learning from history? Thank you to our sponsors!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ MultiChain Advisors is an emerging technology growth firm that has helped create $50B+ in enterprise value for 80+ clients over the past 4 years. They're the partner to help navigate markets. Build real traction today at multichainadv.com The largest DeFi hack of 2026 starts with an RPC node. Not a smart contract bug. Not a stolen key. A spoofed node and a forged transaction. And North Korea drained $300 million from Kelp DAO through LayerZero’s bridge in a single block. Then the attacker went to Aave, borrowed against assets that didn’t exist, and created a bad debt crisis that locked Kain out of his own position. That was Friday. By Sunday, North Korea had started laundering. By Tuesday, Arbitrum’s security council had done something no L2 has ever done: frozen $70 million of funds had stolen by upgrading a bridge contract mid-hack. Kain Warwick, Taylor Monahan, and Luca Netz, with guest Odysseas Lamtzidis, take apart every layer: the DVN architecture flaw, the Aave contagion, the circuit breaker debate, and why the ‘code is law’ era may have just quietly ended. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Security Expert ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Luca Netz, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Odysseas Lamtzidis, Founder & CEO of Phylax Timestamps 🚀 0:00 Introduction 🌉 10:50 How the Kelp DAO hack drained $300M from LayerZero’s DVN 🔍 14:40 Why Taylor says the RPC spoof is scarier than a key compromise 💸 17:08 How the attacker looped rsETH in Aave to amplify the damage ⚖️ 27:08 Why Odysseas thinks bridges carry systemic risk most teams ignore 🔒 42:39 Whether circuit breakers could have stopped the Aave contagion 🏛️ 1:03:09 What Arbitrum’s security council actually did to freeze DPRK funds 🌊 1:13:06 Why Kain calls this a watershed moment for DeFi governance 🎭 1:18:02 How DPRK uses property rights arguments to unfreeze stolen funds 🧠 1:20:42 What Odysseas recommends for teams building DeFi protocols today Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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DEX in the City: KelpDAO vs. LayerZero: Who Is Liable When a DeFi Protocol Is Hacked?
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DEX in the City: KelpDAO vs. LayerZero: Who Is Liable When a DeFi Protocol Is Hacked?

A $300M bridge exploit is forcing the question DeFi has been avoiding: when users lose money, who is actually responsible — the protocol, the infrastructure provider, or both? Thanks to our sponsors! *⁠ As Bitcoin's application layer, Citrea gives you access to the first trust-minimized BTC on a fully programmable platform and a native stablecoin for Bitcoin, ctUSD. You can now participate in Bitcoin capital markets with lending, privacy, payments, Bitcoin yield, trading and predictions. You get expanded Bitcoin utility without sacrificing its security. ⁠Citrea mainnet is live. Put your BTC to work at ⁠⁠citrea.xyz/unchained.⁠ *⁠ Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at http://nexo.com/unchained A $300 million bridge exploit at Kelp DAO has put DeFi's most uncomfortable question back on the table: when users lose money, who is actually responsible? Katherine, Jessi, and Vy dig into the Kelp and Layer Zero finger-pointing and ask whether the industry's core values — permissionlessness, open composability — have become its greatest vulnerability. Then: the Ninth Circuit heard oral arguments on prediction markets last week, and the panel's pointed questions signal the case is headed to the Supreme Court sooner than most expect. Finally: American Express just solved three of agentic commerce's hardest problems — identity, mandate, and accountability — with a product that's live today. The crypto industry, which should be leading this race, is watching from the sidelines. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos⁠⁠, General Counsel at StarkWare. Previously held senior legal roles across DeFi and centralized exchanges. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jessi Brooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TuongVy Le⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at Veda Timestamps 🎙️ 0:00 Introduction live from the Eve Wealth Summit, Phoenix 🔓 2:08 What made the Kelp DAO bridge exploit different from past hacks ⚖️ 7:04 Kelp vs. Layer Zero: who bears liability for the $300M loss 👥 11:37 How retail users coming into DeFi change the accountability calculus 🚦 16:38 Vy: Should DeFi adopt rate limits and permissioning constraints 🗳️ 21:09 Ninth Circuit grills prediction markets — what the skepticism signals 🤖 33:38 Amex launches agentic commerce with accountability crypto hasn't built Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: Kelp DAO Hack Fallout, DeFi Socialized Losses & Arbitrum’s “Reverse Hack”
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The Chopping Block: Kelp DAO Hack Fallout, DeFi Socialized Losses & Arbitrum’s “Reverse Hack”

The Chopping Block crew and guest Monet Supply break down the $200M Kelp DAO bridge exploit, finger-pointing between LayerZero, Kelp DAO, and Aave, the wild “reverse hack” Arbitrum bailout, and what it all means for DeFi lending protocol risk, L2 trust, and the future of socialized losses in crypto. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, we’re joined by Monet Supply, DeFi governance OG and current Spark brain, for a front-row seat to crypto’s hack-of-the-week: the $200M “Kelp DAO—LayerZero—Aave” debacle. If you thought DeFi risk was just about liquidations, buckle up. The team untangles the hack mechanics, the musical chairs of collateral across bridges and lending markets, and—most importantly—the prime time blame game: is it LayerZero’s fault for running a single-signer bridge, or did Kelp DAO or Aave drop the ball? We dive deep into the “socialized losses” mess facing Aave depositors (especially on L2s), unpack Arbitrum’s extraordinary move to confiscate coins back from North Korea (yes, really), and debate whether rollups can—or should—aspire to Ethereum’s censorship resistance. Finally, the squad discusses concrete remediation: rate limits, portfolio triage on risky collaterals, and the meta-game of DeFi crisis response. If you want the blunt, unfiltered, and occasionally spicy take on DeFi’s latest chaos, let’s get into it. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 Kelp DAO bridge exploit: $200M minted, North Korea fingered, DeFi lending protocols left holding the bag 🔹 Why LayerZero’s single-validator bridge design was a disaster waiting to happen 🔹 The Spider-Man meme comes to DeFi: KelpDAO, LayerZero, and Aave point fingers 🔹 Aave’s socialized losses headache: who eats the bad debt, L1 vs L2 depositors 🔹 Arbitrum’s Security Council “reverse hack” to claw back stolen ETH—feature or bug? 🔹 DeFi lending protocol design flaws, cascading risks, and pooled markets explained 🔹 Remediation: rate limits, fewer LRTs, and the “surface of death” in risk management 🔹 Rollups & L2s: why “Ethereum with training wheels” isn’t always the goal 🔹 What this week means for DeFi precedent, governance, and future hacks 🔹 DeFi’s growing pains: market demands bailouts, but who should actually pay up? Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Guest ⭐️ Monet Supply, Head of Strategy at Spark Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Is Canton Permissionless? CEO Says Yes, but SuperValidators Need Approval
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Is Canton Permissionless? CEO Says Yes, but SuperValidators Need Approval

Digital Asset’s CEO faces pointed questions about Canton’s core claims and admits something surprising about the network’s architecture. ======================================================== As Bitcoin's application layer, Citrea gives you access to the first trust-minimized BTC on a fully programmable platform and a native stablecoin for Bitcoin, ctUSD. You can now participate in Bitcoin capital markets with lending, privacy, payments, Bitcoin yield, trading and predictions. You get expanded Bitcoin utility without sacrificing its security. Citrea mainnet is live. Put your BTC to work at citrea.xyz/unchained. Ether.fi is giving Unchained listeners 15% cashback on food and ride apps — and that's on top of the 3% you get on everything else. Your bank is charging you to use your own money. Laura switched and loves her card! Go to ether.fi/unchained to claim your offer. ======================================================== Canton is the chain behind JPMorgan’s deposit token, DTCC, Broadridge’s $400 billion repo book, HSBC, Visa, and a growing roster of the biggest names in global finance. It describes itself as a public permissionless blockchain. But is it? Yuval Rooz, co-founder and CEO of Digital Asset, faces off against Alex Gluchowski, co-founder and CEO of Matter Labs, and Dragonfly managing partner Haseeb Qureshi in a live debate. The charges range from foundational: Canton cannot enforce financial rules without a trusted third party, its validators are permissioned in everything but name, and there is no universally shared ledger. Rooz fires back on all of it and, at one point, concedes something that may surprise you. If the label matters as much as the technology, this episode will force you to decide what blockchain actually means, and whether that answer has consequences for the institutions staking their infrastructure on it. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Laura Shin⁠⁠⁠⁠, Host / Unchained Guests: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Yuval Rooz: Co-Founder & CEO, Digital Asset Haseeb Qureshi: Managing Partner, Dragonfly Alex Gluchowski: Co-Founder & CEO, Matter Labs Timestamps 🎤 0:00 Introduction 🏦 1:55 Why Yuval built Canton to bring capital markets on-chain 🔥 5:41 Where the Canton controversy came from, per Yuval ⛓️ 8:59 What makes a blockchain, per Alex 🔐 16:38 What super validators do and how double spend works on Canton 🗳️ 42:08 What ‘permissionless’ means in the context of Canton 💬 54:40 Why Alex calls Canton a mediated messaging system, not a blockchain 🔎 1:20:53 Yuval admits Canton has no public verifiability Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Strategy's Preferred Stock Is Now a Stablecoin. And DeFi Has a Security Problem.
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Strategy's Preferred Stock Is Now a Stablecoin. And DeFi Has a Security Problem.

The $290 million Kelp DAO hack, attributed to North Korea's Lazarus Group, has DeFi TVL down $13 billion in 48 hours. Do DeFi's foundational assumptions need to change? --- Heads up! If you haven’t yet, be sure to subscribe to Bits + Bips, since the show will migrate there in a few weeks. Follow us on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, X, Unchained and wherever you get your podcasts. ---- DeFi TVL fell from $99.5 to $86.3 billion in 48 hours after the $290 million Kelp DAO exploit — the latest nine-figure attack attributed to North Korea's Lazarus Group, this time via a compromised Layer Zero bridge. Meanwhile, a new class of yield-bearing instrument is staking a claim on capital fleeing private credit: Apyx's APY USD, backed by Strategy's STRC preferred stock, launched on Kraken this week with a 12% yield target and $180 million in supply after just seven weeks. Is STRC-backed yield a legitimate financial primitive, or a Bitcoin derivative with extra steps? And as DeFi absorbs yet another devastating security failure, is the industry's core assumption — that incoming transactions should be treated as legitimate — finally due for an overhaul? Austin Campbell, Ram Ahluwalia, and Chris Perkins dig in with Parker White of Apyx and Michael Bentley of Euler. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Austin Campbell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Host of Bits + Bips, Zero Knowledge Consulting ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of Lumida ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Perkins⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of 250 Digital Asset Management Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Parker White — @TheOtherParker_ — Founding Contributor, Apyx. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Bentley — @euler_mab — Former CEO, Euler Labs Timestamps 🎤 0:00 Introduction 💰 1:49 What Apyx is and how its STRC-backed stablecoin targets 12% yield ⚖️ 6:08 The bull and bear cases for Apyx USD 🔄 10:04 How the two-token model creates yield leverage beyond holding STRC 🌍 16:51 Who the product is for and the path to US markets 📈 21:51 Bitcoin decoupling from equities and the non-consensus rally 🔥 30:15 The $290M Kelp DAO hack: mechanics and who’s to blame 🛡️ 47:07 Should DeFi stop assuming transactions are legitimate by default? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Why Josh Lim Is Optimistic on the Dynamics He's Seeing in Bitcoin
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Bits + Bips: Why Josh Lim Is Optimistic on the Dynamics He's Seeing in Bitcoin

Bitcoin's spot-led rally looks healthy on the surface. But derivatives say conviction is thin. Josh Lim from FalconX on what the market structure is actually telling you right now. --- Thank you to our sponsors! MultiChain Advisors is an emerging technology growth firm that has helped create $50B+ in enterprise value for 80+ clients over the past 4 years. They're the partner to help navigate markets. Build real traction today at multichainadv.com As Bitcoin's application layer, Citrea gives you access to the first trust-minimized BTC on a fully programmable platform and a native stablecoin for Bitcoin, ctUSD. You can now participate in Bitcoin capital markets with lending, privacy, payments, Bitcoin yield, trading and predictions. You get expanded Bitcoin utility without sacrificing its security. Citrea mainnet is live. Put your BTC to work at citrea.xyz/unchained. --- Bitcoin is trading near $75,000, but the market structure around it tells a more complicated story. Implied volatility has collapsed to sub-50, funding rates are negative, and the options market is dominated by sellers, not buyers. Meanwhile, Bitcoin miners are liquidating holdings to fund the transition to high-performance compute, generating a persistent offer just as breakeven retail holders look for an exit. FalconX Global Co-Head of Markets Josh Lim joins Steve Ehrlich to map exactly what is keeping Bitcoin range-bound, where the rotation into ETH and alts is actually coming from, and what signals in derivatives and on-chain data would indicate the market is ready to move. They also get into whether the Clarity Act changes the long-term structure of the altcoin market, how Hyperliquid is being used for institutional RWA arbitrage, and what the quantum threat means not for cryptography, but for trading Bitcoin. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steven Ehrlich⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Head of Research, SharpLink Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Josh Lim — Global Co-Head of Markets, FalconX. Repeat guest; previously covered market structure and institutional crypto flows on Bits + Bips. Timestamps 🌍 00:03:27 How the Iran war repositioned macro funds into Bitcoin 📊 00:09:40 A possible sell wall at $75-76K? Breakeven holders and miners switching to high-performance compute 📉 00:15:59 Why Bitcoin vol is sub-50 and what the options market is signaling 🔄 00:22:08 ETH outperforming Bitcoin: where the rotation is going 💧 00:26:52 Solana refocusing on stablecoin transport after the Drift hack ⚙️ 00:30:15 Hyperliquid perps, RWA arbitrage, and what 'alt season' looks like now ⚛️ 00:37:26 Quantum risk in Bitcoin: governance failure, trading signals to watch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: Quantum FUD, Circle vs. Tether & WLFI Drama
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The Chopping Block: Quantum FUD, Circle vs. Tether & WLFI Drama

Quantum computing risk, USDC vs. Tether drama after the Drift hack, and World Liberty Financial’s governance circus take center stage as Haseeb, Tom, Tarun, and special guest Joshua Lim dissect market signals, institutional FUD, Trumpcoin shenanigans, and ask: is crypto VC dead or just getting started? Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, the crew is joined by special guest Joshua Lim, Head of Derivatives at FalconX (and self-described Quantum FUD Whisperer). Ever wondered what happens when a quantum computer finally threatens public key cryptography? We break down the real and imagined risks of “Q Day,” what markets are actually pricing in, and why watching for Satoshi’s coins moving is still the ultimate market panic trigger. Next up, the hosts tackle the messiest storyline in stablecoins: the massive Drift hack, North Korea’s role, and the blame game between USDC and Tether. Is Circle’s “wait for the court order” approach defensible, or are PR wins up for grabs for whoever moves fastest? We would never forget the crypto car crash that is World Liberty Financial: from drama-filled governance votes that magically extend lockups, to Justin Sun’s redemption arc versus Trumpcoin, to whale-scale DeFi leverage that could nuke a protocol. It’s a masterclass in governance theater and permissioned shenanigans. Finally, we level with all the “crypto venture is dead” crowd — who’s still building, where the real capital is now, and why bear markets always demand an extra shot of conviction. From quantum nightmares to meme coin melodrama, let’s get into it. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹“Q Day” decoded: What quantum risk really means for Bitcoin and the markets 🔹 How institutional allocators cite quantum FUD — but are they just making excuses? 🔹 Why “watching for Satoshi’s coins moving” would nuke market confidence 🔹 Drift hack dissected: USDC vs. Tether, North Korea fingerprints, and Circle’s PR headache 🔹 Is Circle’s don’t-freeze-without-court-order policy defensible or just bad optics? 🔹 World Liberty Financial’s (Trumpcoin) greatest hits: forced lockups, governance theater, and Justin Sun’s crusade 🔹 Tether’s “PR coup” and the stablecoin migration on Solana 🔹 Are most crypto VCs washed? Debating the right-sizing of venture capital in the bear 🔹 Hot takes on “revenue meta,” mature infrastructure, and why there’s less room for dreamers 🔹 Who’s actually still building in crypto — and why cycles always come back Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Guest ⭐️ Joshua Lim, Head of Markets at FalconX Links: Joshua Lim’s Q-Day Thread: ⁠https://x.com/joshua_j_lim/status/2044602429002367330?s=20⁠ Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How the DOJ and SEC Cases Against BitClout's Nader Al-Naji Collapsed
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How the DOJ and SEC Cases Against BitClout's Nader Al-Naji Collapsed

Debanked 12 times. Walked through an airport in handcuffs. Every charge eventually gone. Nader Al-Naji on the defense strategy that convinced both agencies to back off. ======================================================== Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at http://nexo.com/unchained ======================================================== In July 2024, Nader Al-Naji was preparing to board a flight to Turkey when the FBI arrested him in front of with his wife and son and walked him in handcuffs through the airport. The DOJ and SEC had jointly charged the DESO and BitClout founder with defrauding investors of $3 million and running an unregistered securities offering. Twenty months later, both cases are gone: the DOJ dismissed in March 2025, the SEC dismissed with prejudice — meaning it can’t be refiled — in March 2026. Nader tells Laura what actually happened, from the FBI raid on his Beverly Hills home and the clerical error that sent him to federal prison for a weekend, to the legal strategy that convinced both agencies to back off. He also revisits the BitClout celebrity era, the long call with Do Kwon before Terra launched, and the debanking tactic he calls ‘subpoena sniping.’ Host: ⁠⁠⁠Laura Shin⁠⁠⁠, Host / Unchained Guests: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nader Al-Naji (@nadertheory), Founder of DESO and BitClout Timestamps 🚀 0:00 Introduction 🌱 2:21 Starting Basis and returning $140M from Druckenmiller and Andreessen 💬 9:58 What Nader told Do Kwon before Terra launched 🎬 13:38 How BitClout got Elon, Thiel, and Kim Kardashian claiming coins ✈️ 21:24 The FBI raid, the Turkey trip, and the airport arrest ⚖️ 36:23 Why Nader hired the firm that won’t hire ex-prosecutors 🏦 52:42 How ‘subpoena sniping’ cuts off defendants’ legal funding 🪄 1:11:11 The SEC’s out-of-context quote and what DESO is now Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uneasy Money: BIP-361 Wants to Freeze Satoshi's Coins. What Happens If It Passes?
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Uneasy Money: BIP-361 Wants to Freeze Satoshi's Coins. What Happens If It Passes?

A Bitcoin developer just proposed freezing wallets that don't upgrade for quantum resistance. Including Satoshi's. Thank you to our sponsors!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Nexo Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at http://nexo.com/unchained Multichain Advisors MultiChain Advisors is an emerging technology growth firm that has helped create $50B+ in enterprise value for 80+ clients over the past 4 years. They're the partner to help navigate markets. Build real traction today at multichainadv.com Citrea Bitcoin’s application layer, Citrea, launched its mainnet, expanding Bitcoin’s utility to privacy, lending, BTC yields, and more. Citrea enables: cBTC: The first trust-minimized Bitcoin on a fully programmable platform. ctUSD: A native stablecoin for Bitcoin, allowing for unified liquidity. Bitcoin Capital Markets bringing demand, and utility to the Bitcoin Network. Explore the Citrea Ecosystem. A Bitcoin developer just proposed the unthinkable: freeze every wallet that does not upgrade for quantum resistance, including Satoshi's. Kain Warwick and Taylor Monahan are here to reckon with BIP-361, the quantum threat to early Bitcoin addresses, and what it means that this proposal exists at all. They also work through who actually wrote Bitcoin — Hal Finney, Adam Back, and Dave Kleiman — and a trail that runs through the Epstein files. Plus: Justin Sun's frozen World Liberty Financial tokens expose why token holders have no legal rights, EtherFi's exit from Scroll turns into a live platform risk case study, and Circle's decision not to freeze known stolen USDC raises the question of what stablecoin issuers owe to the ecosystem. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Security Expert Timestamps 🎙️ 00:00:00 Introduction ⚛️ 00:00:27 What BIP-361 proposes — and why it's wild even for Bitcoin 📜 00:04:00 Bitcoin history: code-as-code to ossified religion 🔒 00:19:17 How BIP-361 would freeze early wallets and Satoshi's coins 🔑 00:31:05 Satoshi as forcing function: the God candle theory 👻 00:41:57 Who actually wrote Bitcoin? Hal Finney, Adam Back, Kleiman 💰 00:51:22 World Liberty Financial vs Justin Sun: zero token rights 📉 01:06:55 EtherFi leaves Scroll, DNS hijacks, X cashtags: platform risk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Anthropic's Mythos Is More Powerful Than the U.S. Government's AI. Does That Make Sense?
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Anthropic's Mythos Is More Powerful Than the U.S. Government's AI. Does That Make Sense?

Can a private company be trusted to decide which 40 firms get access to the world’s most dangerous AI model? And separately — is the SEC’s new Reg Crypto finally the framework the industry has been waiting for since 2020? Thanks to our sponsors! *⁠ As Bitcoin's application layer, Citrea gives you access to the first trust-minimized BTC on a fully programmable platform and a native stablecoin for Bitcoin, ctUSD. You can now participate in Bitcoin capital markets with lending, privacy, payments, Bitcoin yield, trading and predictions. You get expanded Bitcoin utility without sacrificing its security. Citrea mainnet is live. Put your BTC to work at citrea.xyz/unchained. *⁠ Ether.fi is giving Unchained listeners 15% cashback on food and ride apps — and that's on top of the 3% you get on everything else. Your bank is charging you to use your own money. Laura switched and loves her card! Go to ether.fi/unchained to claim your offer. The week StarkWare’s chief product officer published a paper proposing a quantum-resistant mechanism for Bitcoin that doesn’t require changing Bitcoin’s code. The crew discuss the the threat quantum computers pose to bitcoin, which raises philosophical questions about what it means to “own” bitcoin. “Not your keys, not your coins” has long been the catchphrase — so what happens if a quantum computer wrests your keys away fro you? Plus they discuss the fact that Anthropic decided not to release its most powerful model to the public at the same time its technology is being removed from the government. What does it mean when a private company has greater capability than the U.S. government? Also, the SEC’s Division of Trading and Markets quietly released major guidance clarifying when DeFi front ends need to register as broker-dealers — and Chair Atkins announced what could become the first actual crypto rulemaking in the agency’s history. Katherine, Jessi, and TuongVy work through what each of these developments means for builders, lawyers, and founders navigating crypto right now — and why the question of who gets to make these calls is the same whether you’re talking about AI or regulation. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos⁠, General Counsel at StarkWare. Previously held senior legal roles across DeFi and centralized exchanges. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jessi Brooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TuongVy Le⁠⁠, General Counsel at Veda Timestamps 🚀 0:00 Introduction 🔬 0:55 Whether quantum computing can actually break Bitcoin 🛡️ 4:15 How StarkWare’s new paper proposes making Bitcoin quantum-resistant 🤖 16:59 Why Anthropic’s Mythos model is a ‘benevolent dictator’ problem ⚖️ 20:09 Whether private AI companies should make national security calls 📋 29:19 What the SEC’s new front-end guidance means for DeFi builders 🗻 35:35 What ‘Reg Crypto’ would actually change for token launches 🔒 45:09 How SEAL911 is building shared security standards for DeFi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Why Apple Might Benefit More From AI Than AI Companies Will
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Bits + Bips: Why Apple Might Benefit More From AI Than AI Companies Will

The US Naval blockade is live, markets are holding, and Ram thinks the bottom is in. Austin and Chris are not so sure. --- Thank you to our sponsors: Citrea As Bitcoin's application layer, Citrea gives you access to the first trust-minimized BTC on a fully programmable platform and a native stablecoin for Bitcoin, ctUSD. You can now participate in Bitcoin capital markets with lending, privacy, payments, Bitcoin yield, trading and predictions. You get expanded Bitcoin utility without sacrificing its security. Citrea mainnet is live. Put your BTC to work at citrea.xyz/unchained. Etherfi Ether.fi is giving Unchained listeners 15% cashback on food and ride apps — and that's on top of the 3% you get on everything else. Your bank is charging you to use your own money. Laura switched and loves her card! Go to ether.fi/unchained to claim your offer. Nexo Nexo is a premier digital wealth platform offering: ● crypto yield up to 15% (based on stated annual interest rates) ● crypto-backed credit lines from 1.9% ● a wide range of digital assets. Join today and get 30-day access to exclusive rates. Join Nexo. ---- The day the US Naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz went live, peace talks had just collapsed in Islamabad and markets were holding. Ram, Austin, and Chris work through the tactical logic behind CENTCOM’s move, why regional powers are standing down, and how long Iran can sustain the economic pressure. Then: Anthropic previewed a model called Mythos, cybersecurity stocks fell, and the question of whether AI security risk is real or manufactured now has real money behind it. Meanwhile, World Liberty Financial borrowed $75 million against its own governance token on a platform co-founded by its own advisor, Justin Sun is accusing the team of treating investors as a personal ATM, and the stablecoin bill clock is ticking. Which sectors are most dislocated? What would it take to bring the next wave of investors into crypto? And is this actually a market bottom? Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Austin Campbell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Host of Bits + Bips, Zero Knowledge Consulting ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of Lumida ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Perkins⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of 250 Digital Asset Management Timestamps 🚀 0:00 Introduction ⚓ 1:35 Whether the US naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz is viable 🎯 6:25 How Ram thinks CENTCOM outmaneuvered the IRGC this weekend 📊 15:12 What markets are pricing in and where Ram sees dislocation 🤖 19:41 Why Ram thinks Anthropic’s Mythos announcement is masterclass marketing 💸 28:56 How AI CapEx is coming out of the buybacks that lifted the Mag 7 ⚖️ 40:16 What the WLFI-Justin Sun conflict says about crypto governance 📱 56:06 Why Hyperliquid is the equity proxy crypto never had Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How Onchain Options Could Replace the Basis Trade as Crypto's Yield Strategy
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How Onchain Options Could Replace the Basis Trade as Crypto's Yield Strategy

The basis trade paid 15–30% near risk-free for years. Options couldn't compete. Then 10/10 happened. ======================================================== As Bitcoin's application layer, Citrea gives you access to the first trust-minimized BTC on a fully programmable platform and a native stablecoin for Bitcoin, ctUSD. You can now participate in Bitcoin capital markets with lending, privacy, payments, Bitcoin yield, trading and predictions. You get expanded Bitcoin utility without sacrificing its security. Citrea mainnet is live. Put your BTC to work at citrea.xyz/unchained. Ether.fi is giving Unchained listeners 15% cashback on food and ride apps — and that's on top of the 3% you get on everything else. Your bank is charging you to use your own money. Laura switched and loves her card! Go to ether.fi/unchained to claim your offer. ======================================================== For years, the basis trade and token-launch points farming crowded out options as a yield tool in crypto — not because options were inferior, but because the alternatives were simply too easy and too lucrative. That changed on 10/10. With the basis trade effectively dead and altcoin valuations cratered, a window has opened for onchain options to compete for capital in a way they never could before. Nick Forster, CEO of Derive (formerly Lyra), has been building toward this moment for five years. He joins LTR, venture investor at Cosmos, who has tracked the full graveyard of failed options DEXes — Opyn, HEGIC, Ribbon, Dopex, Strike — and still believes this time is different. The question isn't whether crypto options will scale. It's whether the infrastructure is finally ready. Host: ⁠⁠Laura Shin⁠⁠, Host / Unchained Guests: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nick Forster, CEO and Founder, Derive ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LTR, Venture Investor, Kosmos Timestamps 🚀 0:00 How crypto derivatives evolved from spot to perps to options 🏛️ 4:13 How Deribit built options liquidity — and why Coinbase paid $2.9B ⚰️ 13:53 The graveyard: Opyn, HEGIC, Ribbon, Dopex — why they all failed 🏗️ 15:55 Why Nick built Derive on the premise that complexity is a feature 📉 26:02 How the basis trade's death cleared the field for options yield 🌐 31:35 What onchain options look like when tokenized stocks arrive 🤖 40:32 Why Nick thinks AI agents are the killer app for options at scale 🏦 43:53 The institutional pitch: custody, fees, and milestones to watch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Bitcoin's Geopolitical Upturn and the $100K Question
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Bits + Bips: Bitcoin's Geopolitical Upturn and the $100K Question

Why ETH outperformed Bitcoin this past week, what's really behind the prediction market activity during the Iran situation, and what comes next for institutional crypto adoption. --- Thank you to our sponsors! Ether.fi — 15% cash back on food and rideshare apps, 3% on everything else, borrow at 4% or less Citrea — Trust minimized BTC, native stablecoin CT-USD, Bitcoin capital markets --- A tenuous Iran ceasefire sent oil prices tumbling this past week, and crypto responded before any other asset class. Bitcoin climbed to around $72K, Ethereum outperformed with 6.7 to 7% gains in 48 hours, and billions poured back into ETFs after months of withdrawals. But amid the rally, uncomfortable questions are surfacing: who profited from suspicious prediction market bets placed just before the ceasefire announcement? Are Middle Eastern governments and corporations now using Bitcoin as actual settlement infrastructure? And if the Clarity Act passes without allowing yield-bearing stablecoins, has the banking lobby won? Kavita Gupta, founder and general partner at Delta Blockchain Fund, sits down with Steven Ehrlich to work through a week of whipsawing markets, fragile geopolitics, and structural shifts that could define where crypto goes from here. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steven Ehrlich⁠⁠⁠⁠, Head of Research, SharpLink Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kavita Gupta, Founder & General Partner at Delta Blockchain Fund Links: Ceasefire, Markets & Institutional Flows: Crypto Markets Rebound After Iran-Israel Ceasefire Deal (Unchained) Bitcoin ETFs Record $5 Billion in Daily Volume as Inflows Top $870 Million (Unchained) Crypto Adoption in MENA 2025: Crisis, Adaptation, and Growth (Chainalysis) Prediction Markets & Insider Trading: DEX in the City: Why Prediction Market 'Insider Trading' Isn't Illegal — Yet (Unchained) DEX in the City: How Prediction Markets Pose a National Security Risk (Unchained) Trading Volumes on Prediction Markets Will Drop After the November Election. Will New Market Entrants Still Attract Users? (Unchained) DOJ and CFTC Drop Investigations Into Polymarket: Report (Unchained) Clarity Act & Stablecoin Regulation: Bessent Presses Senate on Clarity Act, Labels Resistant Crypto Leaders 'Nihilists' (Unchained) Circle Stock Plunges 20% as Clarity Act Draft Threatens Stablecoin Yield (Unchained) Treasury Secretary Bessent Presses Congress to Pass CLARITY Act (The Hill) Bessent Ramps Up Pressure on Congress to Pass CLARITY Act (CoinTelegraph) Timestamps 🌐 1:37 Is geopolitical chaos reshaping how crypto trades? 💰 3:44 Are prediction markets the new insider trading? 🚀 11:56 Do institutional flows signal Bitcoin's run to 100K? 📊 16:43 Could altcoins finally see their cycle in 2026? 🏛️ 27:30 Are 24/7 tokenized markets changing finance for good? 📈 34:04 Can the Clarity Act unlock yield-bearing stablecoins? 🤖 42:08 Will AI agents and robots reshape blockchain? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why Morgan Stanley Launched the Cheapest Bitcoin ETF on the Market
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Why Morgan Stanley Launched the Cheapest Bitcoin ETF on the Market

James Seyffart didn't expect Morgan Stanley to do this. Now he's watching to see if BlackRock blinks. Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at http://nexo.com/unchained Ether.fi is giving Unchained listeners 15% cashback on food and ride apps — and that's on top of the 3% you get on everything else. Your bank is charging you to use your own money. Laura switched and loves her card! Go to ether.fi/unchained to claim your offer. Bitcoin’s application layer, Citrea, launched its mainnet, expanding Bitcoin’s utility to privacy, lending, BTC yields, and more. Citrea enables: cBTC: The first trust-minimized Bitcoin on a fully programmable platform. ctUSD: A native stablecoin for Bitcoin, allowing for unified liquidity. Bitcoin Capital Markets bringing demand, and utility to the Bitcoin Network. Explore the Citrea Ecosystem. ======================================================== When Morgan Stanley launched MSBT this week, it didn't just become the first major US bank to issue its own spot Bitcoin ETF — it became the cheapest one on the market, undercutting BlackRock's iBIT by 11 basis points. For a firm not known for fee competition, that surprised even close ETF watchers. James Seyffart, senior analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence, has spent years tracking how wirehouses have slowly warmed to Bitcoin products. He joins Laura Shin to discuss what MSBT's launch says about where institutional crypto adoption is heading, whether Morgan Stanley's 16,000 advisors and $7 trillion in assets could meaningfully shift flows, and why Seyffart now sees inaction on crypto as the active choice, not the safe one, for portfolio managers. Plus: Strategy's $14.5 billion loss, Saylor keeps buying, and why MSTR’s S&P 500 question is now entirely a Bitcoin price story. Host: ⁠Laura Shin⁠, Host / Unchained Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠James Seyffart, Senior Analyst, Bloomberg Intelligence Timestamps 🚀 0:00 Introduction 💰 2:12 How MSBT performed on day one, and what $34M in trading means 🏦 4:10 Who will buy MSBT: advisors, long-term holders, and why traders won't ⚡ 9:58 Why Seyffart tweeted "WOW" in all caps at the Morgan Stanley fee 🔄 12:22 Whether BlackRock will cut fees, and which ETFs might move first 🌐 16:18 Why Seyffart thinks Morgan Stanley is signaling a full crypto pivot ⚖️ 23:09 Why not owning Bitcoin is now the active choice, not the neutral one 📉 25:29 Why, with Strategy's $14.5B loss, Saylor keeps buying Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: Who's Really Satoshi? Quantum Panic, and AI Eating Code
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The Chopping Block: Who's Really Satoshi? Quantum Panic, and AI Eating Code

Bitcoin’s Satoshi drama heats up again as a major journalistic “reveal” drops, just as the crypto industry gets rocked by a quantum computing breakthrough that pulls up security timelines—and AI-powered exploits are suddenly real. We break down Satoshi theories, Blockstream PR whispers, the new quantum risk landscape, Ethereum vs. Bitcoin migration pain, and why your favorite protocols might not be ready for North Korea or superintelligent bug finders. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week we’re joined by Justin Drake, Ethereum Foundation researcher and the internet’s favorite quantum attack alarm bell ringer. Things get spicy immediately: the eternal guessing game “Who is Satoshi?” gets a new round of attention as John Carreyrou (yeah, Theranos guy) drops a supposed expose pointing his finger at none other than Blockstream’s Adam Back. The crew debates whether this Satoshi story is tired PR, inside baseball, or a genuine existential turning point for Bitcoin culture. Then things escalate: Justin walks us through Google and Atomic’s quantum computing breakthrough—a real, validated step forward that potentially pulls the “Q-day” clock up to as soon as 2029. The implications? Bitcoin and Ethereum’s security models are suddenly under the gun, and community denial is in full effect. Who’s better poised to survive a quantum apocalypse… and is coin burning on the menu for Satoshi’s stash? Later, we break down the Drift hack—North Korea’s latest state-level heist, featuring IRL social engineering that sounds like Mr. Robot meets Oceans Eleven. Finally, it’s an AI arms race: Anthropic’s Mythos model is reportedly the most dangerous security researcher ever coded, and it’s already quietly hardening corporate fortresses. Panic? Prepare? Both? One thing’s for sure—there are no do-overs on the blockchain, so let’s get into it. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 Blockstream’s Adam Back is the new “Satoshi” according to a viral John Carreyrou story 🔹 Bitcoin’s culture wars: PR rumor mill vs. industry insiders roll their eyes 🔹 The Google & Atomic quantum computing breakthrough slashes Q-Day timelines dramatically 🔹 Ethereum’s quantum readiness (thanks Justin) vs. Bitcoin’s “not my problem” response 🔹 Why crypto’s “immutable” past is a quantum-ticking time bomb for dormant addresses 🔹 Satoshi coin burning debate—do we idolize, fork, or rage-quit? 🔹 The Drift hack: North Korean ops, social engineering, and multi-sig failures 🔹 Anthropic’s Mythos: the AI that finds bugs before humans—and sometimes emails you about it 🔹 Formal verification, client diversity, and the future defense of blockchains 🔹 Haseeb’s question: Could AI break crypto before quantum does? Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Guest ⭐️ Justin Drake, Researcher of Ethereum Foundation Disclosures LINKS "Securing Elliptic Curve Cryptocurrencies against Quantum Vulnerabilities: Resource Estimates and Mitigations" — Google Quantum AI, Ethereum Foundation, Stanford https://quantumai.google/static/site-assets/downloads/cryptocurrency-whitepaper.pdf "Shor's algorithm is possible with as few as 10,000 reconfigurable atomic qubits" — Cain, Xu, King, Picard, Levine, Endres, Preskill, Huang, Bluvstein https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.28627 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How Does Crypto Remain Secure in a World of Always On AI Hacks? - Uneasy Money
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How Does Crypto Remain Secure in a World of Always On AI Hacks? - Uneasy Money

Anthropic's new model is too dangerous to release publicly. It's already found 20 zero-days. Kain, Taylor, and Austin want to know when it finds the first one in a smart contract. Thank you to our sponsors!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ MultiChain Advisors is an emerging technology growth firm that has helped create over $50 billion in enterprise value for more than 80 clients, like Pyth, Moonpay Commerce, and Wormhole. They’re the partner you want when you’re navigating markets and trying to break out from the noise. They help navigate TGEs, go‑to‑market, BD and partnerships, capital markets advisory, PR, media placements, KOL activations and more, driving execution from launch to scale. Visit multichainadv.com. Bitcoin’s application layer, Citrea, launched its mainnet, expanding Bitcoin’s utility to privacy, lending, BTC yields, and more. Citrea enables: cBTC: The first trust-minimized Bitcoin on a fully programmable platform. ctUSD: A native stablecoin for Bitcoin, allowing for unified liquidity. Bitcoin Capital Markets bringing demand, and utility to the Bitcoin Network. Explore the Citrea Ecosystem. Ether.fi is giving Unchained listeners 15% cashback on food and ride apps — and that's on top of the 3% you get on everything else. Your bank is charging you to use your own money. Laura switched and loves her card! Go to ether.fi/unchained to claim your offer. Anthropic's Mythos model is so capable that the company restricted access to 12 partners and a $100 million compute budget rather than releasing it publicly. It has already identified 20 zero-day vulnerabilities in decades-old software. Now the question over DeFi: if Mythos turns its attention to smart contracts, what survives? The Balancer V2 hack rattled assumptions about immutability as a security guarantee. Kain Warwick, Taylor Monahan, and Austin Griffith of the Ethereum Foundation work through what autonomous AI hacking means for protocols built to be unhackable, why skill files are the sleeper development in the agent stack, how a degen farming bot locked funds in an Aerodrome gauge through a single wrong NFT transfer, and what Anthropic's 89% uptime tells you about the infrastructure running the most powerful AI on earth. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Security Expert Guest: Austin Griffith, Ethereum Foundation Timestamps 🚀 0:00 Introduction 🤖 1:56 Why Anthropic's Mythos found 20 zero-days in decades-old software 🔓 4:39 What the Balancer V2 hack reveals about smart contract immutability 💸 12:54 Why Anthropic gave 12 companies $100M to run Mythos for security 🧠 26:31 How skill files make AI agents instantly crypto-native ⚠️ 34:55 How Kain's degen agent locked tokens in an Aerodrome gauge forever 🏦 41:57 Why Anthropic is closing the OpenClaw subscription loophole 📉 1:01:15 Anthropic's 89% uptime and what it signals about the AI industry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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DEX in the City: How the SEC’s Crypto Task Force Is Rebuilding Trust with Builders
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DEX in the City: How the SEC’s Crypto Task Force Is Rebuilding Trust with Builders

Will SEC guidance stick around if the administration changes? Commissioner Peirce and Sumeera Younis of the Crypto Task Force answer. Thanks to our sponsors! * Citrea — Bitcoin changed how money works. Citrea changes how Bitcoin scales. Trust-minimized BTC on a fully programmable platform with native stablecoin CTUSD. Get started at citrea.xyz/unchained * Ether.fi — 15% cash back on groceries, restaurants, and rideshares. 3% on everything else. Borrow against holdings at 4% or less. Earn up to 8% APY. Go to ether.fi/unchained. * Multichain Advisors — Emerging technology growth firm with $50B+ in enterprise value created for 80+ clients. TGEs, go-to-market, BD, capital markets advisory, and more. Visit multichainadv.com. The SEC’s Crypto Task Force has spent over a year rebuilding a relationship the industry feared was broken for good. Commissioner Hester Peirce and task force Chief of Operations Sumeera Younis explain how the SEC prioritizes crypto policy questions, why tokenization leads the agenda, and what happens to this guidance when the administration changes. They tackle the gap between large players shaping policy and small builders who want clear instructions, reveal how the SEC and CFTC coordinate to prevent jurisdictional conflicts, and argue that smart contracts and AI could reinvent securities disclosure. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos, General Counsel at StarkWare. Previously held senior legal roles across DeFi and centralized exchanges. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jessi Brooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TuongVy Le⁠, General Counsel at Veda Guests: ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Commissioner Hester Peirce, U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Sumeera Younis, Chief of Operations, SEC Crypto Task Force Timestamps 🏛️ 0:00 Introduction 📋 02:49 What Cmr. Peirce and Younis do daily at the crypto task force ⚖️ 07:48 How roundtables shape SEC guidance 👥 11:07 Why, according to Cmr. Peirce, small builders struggle most 🔗 17:09 Whether small teams get the same access as big players 📝 27:32 What good disclosure looks like for tokens, per Younis 🤝 35:17 How the SEC-CFTC MOU prevents regulatory whiplash 🔐 41:32 Whether guidance can survive administrations, per Cmr. Peirce 💭 46:23 What legacies Peirce and Younis leave at the SEC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How 'Booth Babes' at Crypto Conferences Could Lead to Big Hacks Like Drift's
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How 'Booth Babes' at Crypto Conferences Could Lead to Big Hacks Like Drift's

The Drift hack wasn't a one-off exploit. It was a patient operation spanning months, with nation-state actors working the conference circuit. Then Circle let the hackers take the money. Bitcoin’s application layer, Citrea, launched its mainnet, expanding Bitcoin’s utility to privacy, lending, BTC yields, and more. Citrea enables: cBTC: The first trust-minimized Bitcoin on a fully programmable platform. ctUSD: A native stablecoin for Bitcoin, allowing for unified liquidity. Bitcoin Capital Markets bringing demand, and utility to the Bitcoin Network. Explore the Citrea Ecosystem. http://citrea.xyz/unchained =============================================================================== Ether.fi is giving Unchained listeners 15% cashback on food and ride apps — and that's on top of the 3% you get on everything else. Your bank is charging you to use your own money. Laura switched and loves her card! Go to http://ether.fi/unchained to claim your offer. =============================================================================== The Drift hack looked like a typical smart contract exploit until the postmortem revealed something far more elaborate: a six-month DPRK intelligence operation involving in-person social engineering at crypto conferences, fully constructed professional identities, and a $1 million deposit to build trust. Then, after $232 million in USDC was stolen, Circle declined to freeze the funds while attackers bridged them across chains for six hours during business hours. Michael Lewellen from Turnkey and Amanda Wick from VerifyVASP tackle what the Drift compromise teaches about operational security in crypto, why Circle's decision raises hard questions about stablecoin issuer responsibility, and whether the legal framework is forcing companies to choose between compliance and doing what's right. Host: Laura Shin, Host / Unchained Guests: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Amanda Wick, Head of Americas at VerifyVASP ⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Lewellen, Head of Solutions Engineering at Turnkey Timestamps 🔍 00:00 Introduction 🕵️ 00:59 How Drift got infiltrated through a six-month intelligence operation 🛡️ 05:22 Why crypto companies underestimate nation-state-level threats ⚠️ 09:14 Whether DPRK is confirmed behind the Drift hack 💼 18:00 How North Korea recruits non-Korean operatives for crypto attacks 💰 33:52 Why Circle refused to freeze $232M in stolen USDC ⚖️ 51:13 How Tether's freeze response compares to Circle's inaction 🔐 59:31 What laws Amanda Wick would craft for blockchain-speed freezing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: $285M Hack, Iran's Crypto War Machine & the Token Fundamentals Crisis
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Bits + Bips: $285M Hack, Iran's Crypto War Machine & the Token Fundamentals Crisis

A nation state hacked a startup and won. The hosts debate who's liable, what's fixable, and what isn't. --- Thank you to our sponsors: Bitcoin’s application layer, Citrea, launched its mainnet, expanding Bitcoin’s utility to privacy, lending, BTC yields, and more. Citrea enables: cBTC: The first trust-minimized Bitcoin on a fully programmable platform. ctUSD: A native stablecoin for Bitcoin, allowing for unified liquidity. Bitcoin Capital Markets bringing demand, and utility to the Bitcoin Network. Explore the Citrea Ecosystem. Ether.fi is giving Unchained listeners 15% cashback on food and ride apps — and that's on top of the 3% you get on everything else. Your bank is charging you to use your own money. Laura switched and loves her card!Go to ether.fi/unchained to claim your offer. ---- North Korea just pulled off the largest DeFi hack of 2026, draining $285 million from Drift protocol in 12 minutes through a six-month social engineering campaign that included face-to-face meetings at industry conferences. Circle had a six-hour window to freeze $232 million in USDC moving through its own bridge and didn't act. Meanwhile, Iran's IRGC is reportedly collecting crypto tolls at the Strait of Hormuz in USDT via Tron, and the token market is cracking under the weight of 750,000 issuances since 2020 with the median token down 80% from peak. Ram, Austin, and Chris confront the liability question for stablecoin issuers, whether DeFi's security model can survive nation-state attackers, why Chris is calling for licensed "neoprivateers" to recover stolen funds, and what Franklin Templeton's acquisition of 250 Digital signals about where institutional capital is headed. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Austin Campbell⁠⁠⁠⁠, Host of Bits + Bips, Zero Knowledge Consulting ⁠⁠⁠⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of Lumida ⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Perkins⁠⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, President of CoinFund Timestamps 🚨 01:25 How nation states are exploiting DeFi: $285M Drift hack 💬 05:12 Why Circle's freeze power raises a tension between due process and latency ⚖️ 07:37 How post-GENIUS Act regulation reshapes stablecoin liability 🔐 10:25 What makes DeFi civilization-level despite immature security 🎯 19:52 Whether Iran's crypto war machine threatens USDT on Tron 🏛️ 40:00 Why token fundamentals face crisis: 750K tokens, median down 80% 📊 47:38 How to segment the token universe: L1 thesis vs app layer 💰 52:18 What Franklin Crypto means for institutional adoption Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How Bitcoin Is Both a Risk Asset and a Hedge Against Debasement
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How Bitcoin Is Both a Risk Asset and a Hedge Against Debasement

Charles Schwab’s chief crypto strategist breaks down why traditional finance valuation frameworks, not narratives, are finally taking hold in digital assets. --- Multichain Advisors is an emerging technology growth firm that has helped create over $50 billion in enterprise value for 80+ clients. Services include TGE support, go-to-market strategy, BD, partnerships, capital markets advisory, PR, media placements, and KOL activations. Visit ⁠⁠⁠https://www.multichainadv.com/⁠⁠⁠ --- Charles Schwab recently hired Jim Ferraioli to build a dedicated crypto research team, a signal that institutions are moving beyond narrative-driven investing and are taking this asset class seriously. In this episode, Steven Ehrlich sits down with Jim to explore how traditional finance valuation frameworks apply to crypto. They discuss Bitcoin’s role as a hedge against monetary debasement (not a safe haven), Jim’s cost-of-production model for valuing Bitcoin, and why Ethereum’s dominance in tokenization matters far more than short-term price action. Most compellingly, Jim argues that today’s Bitcoin prices sit at historical support levels used by the most efficient miners, and that Ethereum’s position as the tokenization standard is nearly unshakeable. If you’ve been waiting for crypto analysis grounded in fundamentals rather than hype, this is the conversation to hear. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steven Ehrlich⁠⁠⁠, Head of Research, SharpLink Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jim Ferraioli⁠⁠, Director of Digital Currencies Research and Strategy at Charles Schwab Links: Charles Schwab & Institutional Crypto Research ⁠⁠Jim Ferraioli | Charles Schwab⁠⁠ CoinDesk: ⁠⁠Liquidity Lifts Bitcoin, but 'Halving Cycle' Fears Could Limit Rally, Says Schwab⁠⁠ Nasdaq: ⁠⁠Top 4 Reasons More Americans Are Investing in Crypto, According to Schwab⁠⁠ Ethereum Tokenization & Real-World Assets Coindesk: ⁠⁠The Tokenization Boom: Why Ethereum Remains the Rails for RWA Tokenization⁠⁠ Quantum Computing Risk CoinDesk: ⁠⁠Bitcoin Isn't Under Quantum Threat Yet, but Upgrading Could Take 5-10 Years⁠⁠ ⁠⁠How Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana Are Preparing for the Quantum Threat Timestamps 🏛️ 3:26 Is crypto just ping-ponging off Trump headlines? 📉 6:01 Has Bitcoin lost the safe haven narrative again? 💰 10:13 If Bitcoin is a doomsday safe haven, what does that look like? 📊 13:43 Which charts signal what's coming next? ⛏️ 19:32 Can you value crypto like a stock? 💡 24:35 What is one hidden indicator used to detect Bitcoin’s floor? 🔗 26:20 What if you applied the Buffett indicator to Ethereum? 🌐 39:13 Which blockchain wins the tokenization race? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How State-Sponsored Hackers Like DPRK Drain DeFi Protocols: Uneasy Money
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How State-Sponsored Hackers Like DPRK Drain DeFi Protocols: Uneasy Money

The Drift Protocol is down $285 million and Circle has the power to freeze the funds — but won’t. Kain, Taylor, and Luca explain why. Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fuse: The Energy Network ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Shift your energy use and earn rewards. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MultiChain Advisors -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Growth & Capital Markets Partner You Need The Drift Protocol hack was still unfolding when Kain, Taylor, and Luca went live. Within hours of a suspected admin key compromise, over $285 million had been drained across Solana, with Circle sitting on the ability to freeze the stolen USDC — and choosing not to. Taylor Monahan, who was already in an active incident response room, walked through exactly how DPRK malware operates silently on devices for months before striking, why standard antivirus software won’t catch it, and what the Axios supply chain attack revealed about the vulnerability of open source infrastructure. Then the conversation shifted to the Claude Code source leak — what it actually reveals about how the most sophisticated agentic coding harness in the world was built, and why Kain thinks a new Anthropic model may be days away. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Security Expert ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Luca Netz⁠⁠⁠⁠, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Links Unchained: Drift Protocol Coverage — Search unchainedcrypto.com for current coverage Related: SEAL 911 — Volunteer crypto incident response group Drift Protocol Axios npm package — Supply chain attack vector discussed CrowdStrike EDR — Recommended endpoint detection tool Claude Code — Subject of source leak discussion Timestamps 🚀 0:00 Introduction 🏦 11:21 The Drift Protocol hack, active as recording starts 🇰🇵 12:42 Whether DPRK is behind the attack, and the Axios connection 💻 18:29 How DPRK malware steals session tokens and bypasses 2FA 🛡️ 27:23 Why EDR beats AV — and why you need a separate device 🔒 39:14 Why Circle’s freeze policy fails in real-time hacks 🚨 51:05 What SEAL 911 is and how to reach them if you’re compromised 🤖 59:55 The Claude Code source leak and what it reveals about agentic dev Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: Is Canton a Real Blockchain? Ethereum’s Cypherpunk Dilemma, AI Security Chaos
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The Chopping Block: Is Canton a Real Blockchain? Ethereum’s Cypherpunk Dilemma, AI Security Chaos

The Chopping Block crew and Wintermute’s Evgeny Gaevoy debate whether Canton is truly permissionless, if Ethereum Foundation should double down on cypherpunk ideals or embrace institutions, and how AI-driven attacks are forcing everyone in crypto and open source to rethink security models. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week we’ve got Evgeny Gaevoy, Founder of Wintermute, known for sharp takes and sharper trades. First up, the group unpacks the Twitter war over enterprise chain Canton—does it deserve to be called “permissionless”, or is it just TradFi with extra steps? Cue the Solana–Ethereum truce, and a rare moment where every old-school degenerate finds a common enemy. Evgeny makes a strong case for why, despite years of jokes at the Ethereum Foundation’s expense, he thinks they’re finally ahead of the curve by doubling down on cypherpunk roots—even if it makes ETH a little more Linux and a little less Nasdaq. But does decentralization matter if stablecoins and institutions now control the fork-choice? Haseeb and Evgeny spar over whether Ethereum’s “world computer” vision means inviting in the corporate crowd or keeping the punk sanctuary alive. The mood shifts as the hosts dig into crypto’s unfolding security meltdown: AI-written hacks, NPM supply chain fiascos, and what that means for the future of open source in crypto. Plus, a fresh new hack (RIP Drift), and predictions on how defensive tech (or lack thereof) will shape the next cycle. Barstool banter, spicy takes, and zero investment advice as always—let’s get into it. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 The Chopping Block crew and Evgeny Gaevoy debate whether Canton is a permissionless blockchain or just TradFi LARPing as crypto 🔹 Does Ethereum need to double down on cypherpunk “sanctuary” values—or let BlackRock and Circle join the party? 🔹 Haseeb dismantles the idea that all “tokenized RWAs” on “permissioned” blockchains are equivalent to Ethereum 🔹 Solana and Ethereum align—briefly!—with both camps skeptical of enterprise “default no” blockchains 🔹 Circle and Tether’s growing influence: can fork-choice governance still exist if stables dictate the canonical chain? 🔹 Linux, the open internet, and how crypto’s utopian dreams get co-opted by institutions 🔹 Drift’s $270M hack highlights the AI-enabled acceleration of exploits and the mounting risks for open-source software 🔹 AI in security: From North Korean supply chain attacks to open source’s existential crisis 🔹 Is the future of crypto code closed or open? Zero knowledge proofs vs. code visibility in the LLM era 🔹 Are we headed for a world where only org-backed, audit-heavy open source survives? Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Guest ⭐️ Evgeny Gaevoy, Founder and CEO at Wintermute Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Do Centralized Real World Assets on DeFi Break Ethereum? - Bits + Bips
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Do Centralized Real World Assets on DeFi Break Ethereum? - Bits + Bips

When do oil prices force a ceasefire? Why is crypto holding firm while equities crack? And does Canton or Ethereum win the institutional race? --- Thank you to our sponsor: ⁠⁠⁠Nexo⁠⁠⁠ — the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your digital assets, borrow against them without selling, and trade a wide range of cryptocurrencies all in one place. Now available in the US with 30 days of exclusive privileges for new clients. Get started at ⁠⁠⁠nexo.com/unchained⁠⁠⁠. ---- Bond market tightening has become the invisible hand constraining every policy decision, from Iran talks to stimulus spending. With Brent crude at $107 and the 10-year yield climbing, asset prices face a cascade of headwinds: inflationary supply shocks, tightening financial conditions, and no clear off-ramp for a conflict that the IRGC shows no appetite to negotiate. Yet within crypto, a sharper debate is emerging: does institutional adoption demand Canton’s permissioned structure, or can Ethereum survive with real-world assets on a permissionless layer? Austin, Ram, and Chris dig into the structural fault lines that the macro backdrop is now exposing, and why market-timing in a conflict where you don’t know who the endgame negotiator is may be the wrong frame entirely. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠Austin Campbell⁠⁠⁠, Host of Bits + Bips, Zero Knowledge Consulting ⁠⁠⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, CEO of Lumida ⁠⁠⁠Chris Perkins⁠⁠⁠, Co-Host, President of CoinFund Timestamps 🌍 0:50 Whether Iran’s bond market signals broader conflict escalation 💼 8:06 How crypto performs as equities face their worst month 📊 29:50 What the S&P’s price means for portfolio construction 🔗 38:58 Canton vs. everyone in crypto 💰 47:00 How commingled pools create systemic risk in DeFi ⛓️ 55:53 What internet money means for Ethereum when US law is layer zero Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How Bitcoin Is Both a Risk Asset and a Hedge Against Debasement
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How Bitcoin Is Both a Risk Asset and a Hedge Against Debasement

Charles Schwab’s chief crypto strategist breaks down why traditional finance valuation frameworks, not narratives, are finally taking hold in digital assets. --- Multichain Advisors is an emerging technology growth firm that has helped create over $50 billion in enterprise value for 80+ clients. Services include TGE support, go-to-market strategy, BD, partnerships, capital markets advisory, PR, media placements, and KOL activations. Visit ⁠https://www.multichainadv.com/⁠ --- Charles Schwab recently hired Jim Ferraioli to build a dedicated crypto research team, a signal that institutions are moving beyond narrative-driven investing and are taking this asset class seriously. In this episode, Steven Ehrlich sits down with Jim to explore how traditional finance valuation frameworks apply to crypto. They discuss Bitcoin’s role as a hedge against monetary debasement (not a safe haven), Jim’s cost-of-production model for valuing Bitcoin, and why Ethereum’s dominance in tokenization matters far more than short-term price action. Most compellingly, Jim argues that today’s Bitcoin prices sit at historical support levels used by the most efficient miners, and that Ethereum’s position as the tokenization standard is nearly unshakeable. If you’ve been waiting for crypto analysis grounded in fundamentals rather than hype, this is the conversation to hear. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steven Ehrlich⁠, Head of Research, SharpLink Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jim Ferraioli, Director of Digital Currencies Research and Strategy at Charles Schwab Links: Charles Schwab & Institutional Crypto Research Jim Ferraioli | Charles Schwab CoinDesk: Liquidity Lifts Bitcoin, but 'Halving Cycle' Fears Could Limit Rally, Says Schwab Nasdaq: Top 4 Reasons More Americans Are Investing in Crypto, According to Schwab Ethereum Tokenization & Real-World Assets Coindesk: The Tokenization Boom: Why Ethereum Remains the Rails for RWA Tokenization Quantum Computing Risk CoinDesk: Bitcoin Isn't Under Quantum Threat Yet, but Upgrading Could Take 5-10 Years How Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana Are Preparing for the Quantum Threat Timestamps 🏛️ 3:26 Is crypto just ping-ponging off Trump headlines? 📉 6:01 Has Bitcoin lost the safe haven narrative again? 💰 10:13 If Bitcoin is a doomsday safe haven, what does that look like? 📊 13:43 Which charts signal what's coming next? ⛏️ 19:32 Can you value crypto like a stock? 💡 24:35 What is one hidden indicator used to detect Bitcoin’s floor? 🔗 26:20 What if you applied the Buffett indicator to Ethereum? 🌐 39:13 Which blockchain wins the tokenization race? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How Solana's Largest Perp DEX Was Exploited for $285 Million
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How Solana's Largest Perp DEX Was Exploited for $285 Million

Chaos Labs' Omer Goldberg unpacks the $285 million Drift Protocol exploit. Did the perp DEX fail to implement best practices? Sponsored by ⁠Nexo⁠: A crypto lending and borrowing platform that lets users earn interest on digital assets and access credit against their holdings. Now available in the US with exclusive privileges for new clients. Get started today:⁠ http://nexo.com/unchained⁠ Solana's biggest perp DEX Drift Protocol was exploited for $285 million on April Fool's Day in a compromise observers have described as “methodical” and “chilling.” Chaos Labs founder Omer Goldberg unpacks how the exploit, which is among the 10 largest in DeFi history, went down, including how hackers leveraged a Solana feature to lie in wait without triggering alarms and how the attack bore some resemblance to the Mango DAO and Resolv exploits. He also weighs in on criticism against Circle for its slow response and whether the exploit has the markings of a North Korean state sponsored attack. In Omer's telling, the loss could have been avoided. Listen to find out more! Guest: ⁠Omer Goldberg, Founder and CEO of Chaos Labs Previous appearances on Unchained: How the Resolv Hack Was a Web2 Exploit, Not a Crypto One - Uneasy Money Links Unchained: Drift Protocol Suffers $285 Million Exploit After Admin Key Compromise and Oracle Manipulation Uneasy Money: How the Resolv Hack Shows an Audit Doesn’t Mean ‘Secure’ The Mango Markets Attacker on Whether His ‘Trade’ Was Ethical or Not North Korean Hackers Are Winning. Is the Crypto Industry Ready to Stop Them? Timestamps 🚀 0:00 Introduction 🥶 0:54 Why the Drift protocol hack is so chilling ⁉️ 4:32 Was the admin key set up to blame? Or Was it a supply chain attack? 📍 9:17 How the attack is reminiscent of the Mango DAO and Resolv exploits 😬 14:09 How a Solana feature allowed Drift's hackers to lie in wait without triggering alarms ❌️ 19:55 How Drift Protocol failed to implement best practices 🦠24:53 Who else has been impacted by the Drift Protocol exploit? 🤔 27:50 Should Circle have acted faster to freeze the loot? ⚠️ 31:20 Why Omer thinks the Drift Protocol exploit has North Korea written all over it 📝 34:34 Why Omer says the incident calls for better DeFi disclosures and audits Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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DEX in the City: Why the Prediction Market Bans Could Just Be Beginning
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DEX in the City: Why the Prediction Market Bans Could Just Be Beginning

Former FTX General Counsel Ryne Miller joins the DEX in the City crew to unpack the CFTC's crypto moves. Does the agency have the staffing to achieve its “aggressive” agenda? Thanks to our sponsor, Nexo, the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your digital assets. Borrow against them without selling. Trade a variety of cryptocurrencies. All in one platform. Now available in the U.S. Get started today at nexo.com/unchained. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission under Chair Mike Selig has unveiled an expansive agenda across artificial intelligence, crypto and prediction markets. Former CFTC staffer and FTX General Counsel Ryne Miller joins DEX in the City hosts Vy Le and Jessi Brooks to unpack the agenda and answer whether the regulator has the resources to fulfill it. According to Miller, the agenda could see the agency return to a schedule similar to the Dodd-Frank era under then-Chair Gary Gensler. Beyond the CFTC's regulatory moves, Miller also weighs in on the growing bans on the use of prediction markets by certain officials. Find out why he says it is a trend that is likely to continue. Plus, should Canton be segregated from other blockchains? Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jessi Brooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TuongVy Le, General Counsel at Veda Guest: ⁠Ryne Miller, Partner at Morrison Foerster & Former FTX General Counsel Links: Unchained: CFTC Clears Path for Phantom to Bridge Crypto Wallets and Derivatives CFTC Moves to Rein In Prediction Markets as Industry Booms SEC and CFTC Move Toward Unified Crypto Rules Crypto Startup Bet on Its Own Fundraise on Polymarket, Then Apologized How Prediction Markets Make Espionage So Much Easier — and Risk National Security Visa Approves Its First Blockchain Governance Proposal, Joining Canton Network as Super Validator Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Quantum Computing Got 20x Closer. It Threatens A Third of All Bitcoin
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Quantum Computing Got 20x Closer. It Threatens A Third of All Bitcoin

Google just set a deadline. Quantum computers could break Bitcoin's encryption by 2029. Are blockchains ready? Sponsored by ⁠Nexo⁠ Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at http://nexo.com/unchained Google and Oratomic published quantum computing research on the same day, and together they redraw the timeline for when blockchains need to be post-quantum secure. Google's paper, co-authored by Ethereum Foundation researcher Justin Drake and Stanford cryptographer Dan Boneh, estimates 2029 for breaking the elliptic curve cryptography that protects Bitcoin and Ethereum. Oratomic's findings are sharper: utility-scale quantum computers may need only 10,000 qubits, not the millions previously assumed, and the company already has 6,000 in the lab. With 6.7 million BTC in vulnerable addresses and a newly identified 9-minute attack window on unspent Bitcoin transactions, the question is no longer whether blockchains need to migrate. It's whether they can do it fast enough. Guests: ⁠Alex Pruden, Co-Founder & CEO, Project Eleven ⁠Dolev Bluvstein, CEO of Oratomic Links: Unchained: Q-Day Is Imminent. Can Bitcoin Survive the Quantum Threat? Solana Deploys Post-Quantum Signatures on Testnet Is Nic Carter Exaggerating Bitcoin's Quantum Risk? Yes, Says One Core Dev Research Papers: Google: Securing Elliptic Curve Cryptocurrencies Against Quantum Vulnerabilities Oratomic: Shor's Algorithm with as Few as 10,000 Reconfigurable Atomic Qubits (arXiv) Caltech: Useful Quantum Computers Could Be Built with as Few as 10,000 Qubits Companies & Tools: Project Eleven Project Eleven: Yellow Pages Oratomic BIP 360: Pay-to-Merkle-Root (P2MR) Standards & Infrastructure: NIST Post-Quantum Cryptography Standards Cloudflare: State of the Post-Quantum Internet Google Quantum AI: Willow & Error Correction Algorand: Quantum-Resistant Falcon Signatures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Grid Congestion Is Energy’s L1 Problem. This Crypto Company Has a Solution
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Bits + Bips: Grid Congestion Is Energy’s L1 Problem. This Crypto Company Has a Solution

Oil above $100, Qatar's LNG infrastructure in ruins, and a 150-year-old grid buckling under AI-era demand: Sean Murray breaks down why energy has an L1 problem and how Fuse is building the crypto-native fix. --- Multichain Advisors is an emerging technology growth firm that has helped create over $50 billion in enterprise value for 80+ clients. Services include TGE support, go-to-market strategy, BD, partnerships, capital markets advisory, PR, media placements, and KOL activations. Visit https://www.multichainadv.com/ --- A $5 billion UK energy company built by Revolut alumni is about to launch a new token, and they already have an SEC no-action letter to back it up. But the real story starts with the grid itself. European gas prices are running 50-70% above normal. Multi-billion dollar LNG facilities damaged in recent attacks could take years to repair. And a power grid designed 150 years ago is buckling under AI data centers, EVs, and renewables it was never built to handle. Sean Murray, Fuse Energy's crypto lead, joins Steven Ehrlich to lay out why an estimated $70 billion in clean energy has been wasted because the grid can't move it, why that congestion problem mirrors crypto's own L1 scalability crisis, and how coordinating millions of smart home devices through a token-incentivized network could fix it. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steven Ehrlich, Head of Research, SharpLink Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sean Murray, Head of Special Projects & Crypto Lead, Fuse Energy — Previously part of the Revolut early team; now leading Fuse's crypto strategy and DePIN network launch for a vertically integrated energy company doing ~$500 million in annual revenue across the UK and Europe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why AI Agents Might Require Humans to Transact More Than as You Think
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Why AI Agents Might Require Humans to Transact More Than as You Think

Will AI agents use cards or stablecoins? Here’s how two crypto VCs see the agentic future shaping up. Sponsored by Nexo: A crypto lending and borrowing platform that lets users earn interest on digital assets and access credit against their holdings. Now available in the US with exclusive privileges for new clients. Get started today: http://nexo.com/unchained What happens when merchants are code instead of storefronts? Noah Levine and Robbie Petersen debate whether stablecoins or cards win in an agentic economy, and more importantly, where the profit pools end up. One sees headless merchants driving a new payment stack; the other warns that front ends never fully disappear. Both agree on this: traditional fraud detection will likely fail against AI behavior patterns, and the rails question masks a deeper problem of regulatory and social inertia. The outcome hinges on whether permissionless infrastructure can outcompete existing payment incumbents, and whether agentic commerce actually scales beyond niche use cases. Guest: Noah Levine, Partner at a16z Robbie Petersen, Junior Partner at Dragonfly Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uneasy Money: How the Resolv Hack Shows an Audit Doesn't Mean 'Secure'
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Uneasy Money: How the Resolv Hack Shows an Audit Doesn't Mean 'Secure'

Chaos Labs’ Omer Goldberg joins the crew to dig into the Resolv Labs exploit. Why was the USR minting function controlled by a single key? And how did audits miss it? Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fuse: The Energy Network ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Shift your energy use and earn rewards. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MultiChain Advisors -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Growth & Capital Markets Partner You Need ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Crypto Tax Girl $25 million extracted and millions more in bad debt across lending protocols. Chaos Labs founder Omer Goldberg joins Uneasy Money hosts Kain Warwick, Luca Netz and Taylor Monahan to unpack the Resolv exploit. They dive into how the exploit reveals DeFi's basic OpSec and risk judgement failings. Omer highlights the various ways it could have been prevented as Tay says protocol audits have become “security theater.” Kain questions Morpho's curator model after its pools were hit hard as the contagion spread. He also highlights markers that suggest the exploit may have been executed in panic. Beyond the Resolv exploit, the crew highlights that Aave v4 has made it out of governance, discussing the motivations behind the upgrade and whether the hub and spoke model will impact listing standards. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Security Expert ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Luca Netz⁠⁠⁠, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Guest: Omer Goldberg, Founder and CEO of Chaos Labs Links: Unchained: Aave V4 Clears First Governance Vote with 100% Support After Months of Internal Conflict Stani Kulechov on Why Aave Labs Is Putting Itself at the Mercy of the DAO How Aave Labs and the DAO Should Split Ownership of the Brand – Uneasy Money Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Why Iran Is Trump’s Greatest Taco. Plus, Is Elon’s TeraFab ‘Bullshit’?
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Bits + Bips: Why Iran Is Trump’s Greatest Taco. Plus, Is Elon’s TeraFab ‘Bullshit’?

Trump pulled off a five-day ceasefire nobody expected. Ram calls it the greatest TACO of his career. --- Thank you to our sponsor: Nexo — the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your digital assets, borrow against them without selling, and trade a wide range of cryptocurrencies all in one place. Now available in the US with 30 days of exclusive privileges for new clients. Get started at nexo.com/unchained. ---- Trump announced a five-day pause on strikes against Iranian energy infrastructure just hours before his own 48-hour ultimatum expired. Oil crashed below $90. Bitcoin surged from $68,200 to above $71,000. Ram called it the greatest TACO of Trump’s career and said the Trump put is officially here. Meanwhile the Fed held rates steady but the dot plot revealed a historically wide internal split: seven members want zero cuts in 2026 while five want 50 basis points or more. Powell warned inflation isn’t coming down as hoped with projections now at 2.7% for headline. And in tech, Elon Musk unveiled a $25 billion chip fab that Ram says is pure fiction while Bezos raised $100 billion to buy manufacturing companies and transform them with AI. Hosts: Austin Campbell, Host of Bits + Bips, Zero Knowledge Consulting Ram Ahluwalia, Co-Host, CEO of Lumida Chris Perkins, Co-Host, President of CoinFund Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips:  What Iran, Oil Shocks, and No Rate Cuts Mean for Crypto
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Bits + Bips: What Iran, Oil Shocks, and No Rate Cuts Mean for Crypto

Bitcoin dropped under $69K even as the SEC and CFTC create more clarity for crypto, and agentic commerce looks like it will reshape the sector. --- Thank you to our sponsor, MultiChain Advisors --- Bitcoin dropped under $69K after the Fed, ECB, and Bank of England all held rates steady this week, while Australia hiked. Kaiko's Laurens Fraussen joins to explain what's actually happening beneath the surface, from collapsing liquidity to a quiet geographic shift in who's buying. He also makes the case that agentic commerce could reshape how crypto payments work entirely and we break down why the market mostly shrugged at the latest crypto guidance from the SEC and CFTC. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steven Ehrlich⁠, Host of Bits + Bips: The Interview Guest: ⁠Laurens Fraussen, Research Analyst at Kaiko Links: Bitcoin, Markets, and the Iran Conflict Bitcoin Holding at $70,000 as Iran War Stokes Inflation Concerns — Bloomberg These 3 Charts Show Bitcoin’s War-Linked Selloff Keeps Shrinking as Iran Conflict Worsens — CoinDesk What Bitcoin’s Falling Hash Rate Might Mean for Prices — CoinDesk What’s Next for Bitcoin Price Amid Iran War and Oil Prices Surge — DL News Central bank rate decisions Fed Interest Rate Decision March 2026: Holds Rates Steady — CNBC Fed Meeting Recap: Powell Says Inflation Isn’t Coming Down as Much as ‘Hoped’ — CNBC Bank Rate Maintained at 3.75%, March 2026 — Bank of England ECB, BOE, Swiss National Bank, Riksbank Interest Rate Decisions — CNBC ECB Holds Rates, Predicts 2.6% Inflation for 2026 — Central Banking SEC/CFTC Interpretive Guidance SEC Clarifies the Application of Federal Securities Laws to Crypto Assets — SEC.gov Joint Interpretation From the SEC and CFTC on Certain Types of Crypto Assets — Free Writings & Perspectives SEC Names Bitcoin, Ether, Solana and 13 More Crypto Assets Digital Commodities — FinTech Weekly Agentic Commerce and Payments Stripe-Led Payments Blockchain Tempo Goes Live With AI Agent Protocol — CoinDesk Stripe and Paradigm’s Tempo Mainnet Goes Live for Machine Payments — Crypto.news Coinbase-Backed AI Payments Protocol Wants to Fix Micropayments but Demand Is Just Not There Yet — CoinDesk Google Agentic Payments Protocol + x402: Agents Can Now Actually Pay Each Other — Coinbase Google Debuts ‘Universal’ Protocol for Agentic Commerce — PYMNTS Coinbase and Cloudflare Will Launch the x402 Foundation — Coinbase World Launches AgentKit With Coinbase-Backed x402 to Verify Human Identity Behind AI Agents — CoinDesk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bitcoin DeFi Has Been Elusive. Can Mysten Labs Bring $1.4 Trillion Onchain?
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Bitcoin DeFi Has Been Elusive. Can Mysten Labs Bring $1.4 Trillion Onchain?

Adeniyi Abiodun, co-founder and CPO of Mysten Labs,  walks through how Hashi works and how it differs from the competition. Can it succeed where others have failed? Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at ⁠nexo.com/unchained⁠ Mysten Labs has announced Hashi, a protocol designed to unlock several financial applications for native Bitcoin in a trust minimized way. Mysten Labs co-founder Adeniyi Abiodun walks through how Hashi works and how it differs from wrapped Bitcoin tokens and L2s. He says the protocol is built with institutions in mind, highlighting for one that it does not trigger a tax event like alternatives and also comes with low-premium on-chain Bitcoin denominated insurance. Listen to find out how Hashi manages these and more. Will Mysten Labs succeed in unlocking Bitcoin's long-desired $1.4 trillion liquidity? Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Adeniyi Abiodun, Co-Founder and CPO of Mysten Labs Links Unchained: Sui Blockchain Restored After Six-Hour Outage Sui-Based Typus Finance Loses $3.4 Million in Hack Coinbase’s cbBTC Crosses $1 Billion Market Cap, Deploys on Solana New Bitcoin Liquid Staking Protocols Aim to Replicate Lido’s Success Kraken Launches Wrapped Bitcoin Token kBTC Top Wrapped Bitcoin (WBTC) Alternatives You Should Know About Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uneasy Money: Should DeFi Frontends Block High Slippage Swaps?
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Uneasy Money: Should DeFi Frontends Block High Slippage Swaps?

The crew unpacks the significance of the Trade[XYZ] S&P 500 license, why Vanity Fair's recent crypto piece is so controversial and whether the EF is returning to “communism.” Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fuse: The Energy Network ⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Shift your energy use and earn rewards. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MultiChain Advisors -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Growth & Capital Markets Partner You Need Trade[XYZ] has obtained a license from the S&P Dow Jones Indices to offer S&P 500 perps on Hyperliquid. A crypto trader lost $50 million in a single Aave swap. A Vanity Fair crypto shoot and article is sparking backlash. And the Ethereum Foundation has unveiled a “new” mandate. Uneasy Money hosts Kain Warwick, Luca Netz and Taylor Monahan dig into what the S&P license means for crypto with Kain saying it is not priced in yet. They also debate whether DeFi frontends should block high slippage swaps after the recent Aave swap gone wrong. Plus, did Vanity Fair intend to mock crypto? Luca shares how he dodged the bullet. Tay explains why OpenSea founder Devin Finzer and his wife got the most heat. Kain lets slip how he found himself on the New York Times for buying Trump's memecoin. And why Kain does not think the Ethereum Foundation's new mandate matters in the long-run. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Security Expert ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Luca Netz⁠⁠, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Links: Unchained: S&P 500 Gets First Officially Licensed Onchain Perpetual, Landing on Hyperliquid Dueling Post-Mortems Reveal How a $50 Million DeFi Swap Went From Bad to Catastrophic Ethereum Foundation Codifies Its Own Obsolescence in New Mandate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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DEX in the City: Why the Binance Case Against the WSJ ‘Is Probably Not a Winner’
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DEX in the City: Why the Binance Case Against the WSJ ‘Is Probably Not a Winner’

The crew unpacks the Binance case against the Wall Street Journal. Is the lawsuit just for optics? Plus, why crypto can't turn a blind eye to one Aave user's $50 million loss. Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at nexo.com/unchained Binance has sued the Wall Street Journal for defamation over a report that money has flowed from its platform to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp. DEX in the City hosts Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos and Jessi Brooks are joined by Arktouros Partner Jane Khodarkovsky to discuss the sanctions implications of the story, what is at stake in the lawsuit and the burden of proof on Binance. Is Binance fighting a losing battle? And could the case backfire amid a parallel DOJ investigation? Beyond the Binance case, the crew unpacks recent efforts by the CFTC and SEC to provide crypto with regulatory clarity. Find out why KK says the CFTC's recent prediction markets guidance is a “nothingburger” and why a no-action letter to Phantom is not a carte blanche for all crypto frontends. Plus, is it time for crypto to consider best execution rules as an Aave user loses $50 million in a DeFi swap gone wrong? Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jessi Brooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital ⁠⁠⁠⁠Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos⁠⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at StarkWare Guest: Jane Khodarkovsky, Sanctions expert Links: Unchained: CFTC Moves to Rein In Prediction Markets as Industry Booms SEC and CFTC Move Toward Unified Crypto Rules Dueling Post-Mortems Reveal How a $50 Million DeFi Swap Went From Bad to Catastrophic Vy Le's paper on on-chain best execution: Fairness by Design: Verifiable Execution in On-Chain Markets This week's good news: Tech boss uses ChatGPT to create cancer vaccine to save dying dog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Top Things Investors Need to Know Before Buying Crypto Tokens
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The Top Things Investors Need to Know Before Buying Crypto Tokens

Across Protocol wants to retire its token in exchange for equity. Is the DAO model structurally broken? Thank you to our sponsor! Adaptive Security With Across Protocol proposing to retire its ACX token in favor of equity, a long-simmering question in crypto governance is finally breaking into the open: do token holders actually have meaningful ownership, or just the illusion of it? As the regulatory environment under the new U.S. administration shifts dramatically from the Gensler era, the structures that crypto teams were forced to build may now be working against the very communities they were meant to serve. Ryan Yi, founder of Onchain Group, and Felipe Montealegre, co-founder and CIO of Theia, have studied these incentive structures closely, and what they have found is uncomfortable. From PumpFun's suppressed valuation to the perverse incentives baked into token buyouts, this conversation examines whether the DAO model was ever built to last, and what governance actually needs to look like if crypto is going to compete with global finance. Guests: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Ryan Yi, Founder of Onchain Group ⁠⁠⁠⁠Felipe Montealegre, Co-Founder & Chief Investment Officer at Theia Links: Read our Aave deep dive here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: The Ethereum Foundation Manifesto + Who Really Runs Crypto?
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The Chopping Block: The Ethereum Foundation Manifesto + Who Really Runs Crypto?

Crypto insiders debate the Ethereum Foundation’s new “CROPS” mandate: is the EF losing touch with builders, why does Solana keep pulling startups away, and what will it actually take for Ethereum to stay ahead? Expect a candid conversation on governance, comms, and crypto culture wars. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week we’ve got plenty of firepower with special guests Taylor Monahan (formerly of MetaMask, now a security sensei) and Bankless impresario David Hoffman. The crew digs into the Ethereum Foundation’s freshly dropped “CROPS” manifesto — a 38-page PDF full of cypherpunk values, new acronyms, and debate fuel. What does it really say about where Ethereum is headed? Is EF finally embracing “sanctuary tech,” or just giving startups another reason to choose Solana? Who deserves credit for Ethereum’s growth: the Foundation, the community, or the market? Expect sharp takes on EF’s endless comms problems, why L2s aren’t a cure-all, and whether crypto culture matters as much as the tech. It’s a spicy, insider-heavy episode — so grab your popcorn and dive in. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 Ethereum Foundation’s new CROPS mandate—what it says, what it avoids, and why it sparked a vibe war 🔹 Is Vitalik’s “sanctuary tech” vision pushing builders away or just keeping Ethereum pure? 🔹 The never-ending battle between “cypherpunks” and “pragmatists” in Ethereum’s governance 🔹 Why Ethereum’s “bad comms” tradition keeps causing existential crises 🔹 Solana’s support playbook: How culture, not tech, is dominating the builder mindshare 🔹 Are new projects ditching Ethereum L1 for Base, Arbitrum, and Solana—and does platform risk even matter now? 🔹 Should EF just stick to research, or actually help grow the ecosystem? And what does “supporting builders” actually mean? 🔹 Can you keep your values if you don’t win? The hard truths of crypto capitalism 🔹 Lessons from Defi Summer, NFT mania, and what L2 drama says about ecosystem incentives 🔹 Haseeb goes “political”: Why virtue-signaling and simple narratives are killing real debate Hosts ⭐️ Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️ Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️ Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Guest ⭐️ Taylor Monahan, Security expert & Host of Uneasy Money⭐️ David Hoffman, Host of Bankless Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:51 EF Mandate Explained 03:23 Pragmatists vs. Cypherpunks 05:13 Tay’s Middle Ground 08:54 David Reads Between Lines 13:51 Tom & Tarun Push Back 18:20 EF Factions & Solana Shadow 24:13 Does Ethereum Want Growth 31:01 Virtue Signaling 35:35 Where to Build Now 39:16 Solana Support vs Ethereum Stability 42:12 EF Promotion & Builder Support 47:54 Goldilocks Time Horizons 51:10 Ethereum Soul and Body 56:03 Does EF Leadership Matter? 01:02:45 Stewardship and Market Failures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Bitcoin Hits $75K as It Starts Catching Up to Gold
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Bits + Bips: Bitcoin Hits $75K as It Starts Catching Up to Gold

Ram is bearish on equities, oil is keeping the Fed frozen, and Bitcoin is holding up anyway. The hosts debate whether crypto has bottomed or whether worse is still ahead. --- Thanks to our sponsor, Nexo! ---- Three weeks into the Iran conflict, oil is keeping inflation elevated, rate cuts are getting pushed out, and hedge funds are being forced to sell good names just to reduce exposure. So why is Bitcoin holding up? Ram sees a market on the right shoulder of a bubble, with industrials like Caterpillar at 35x earnings and no real capitulation yet in equities or private credit. Chris is watching trading desks pick up the “short-gold, long-Bitcoin” trade, and sees Ethereum's fundamentals quietly strengthening. Austin wants to know what happens to DeFi the day a major stablecoin gets compromised on a censorship-resistant chain with no network-level controls. And all three are asking the same question investors need answered now: does the Iran conflict end fast enough to stop oil from triggering a true inflationary regime, or is a harder correction still ahead? Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Austin Campbell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, NYU Stern professor and founder and managing partner of Zero Knowledge Consulting ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Christopher Perkins⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Bitcoin Finally Acted Like a Hedge. Will It Last?
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Bits + Bips: Bitcoin Finally Acted Like a Hedge. Will It Last?

For the first time in a geopolitical crisis, bitcoin held its ground while safe havens faltered. But can it keep holding if the VIX moves from yellow to red? --- Bits + Bips is spreading its wings Starting soon, new episodes will only be published on our brand‑new feeds. What you need to do: Click the links below. ⁠YouTube⁠ ⁠Apple⁠ ⁠Spotify⁠ ⁠X⁠ Smash Follow or Subscribe. 🎉 Done. --- The Strait of Hormuz is closed. Oil is past $100 a barrel. The traditional safe haven playbook, from treasuries to gold, is failing to perform the way it should. And yet bitcoin is up 4% since the conflict started, holding steady in a tight range that Andy Baehr, newly installed as managing director of asset management at GSR, calls "base camp." What signals should investors watch to know if the next move is up or down? Why does the VIX suggest calm when the world feels anything but? And why might the tokenization boom be built on demand that doesn't exist yet? Baehr, who spent years constructing the crypto index ecosystem at CoinDesk, brings a structural lens to a market moment where nothing is where it should be. Host: ⁠⁠Steven Ehrlich, Host of Bits + Bips: The Interview Guest: Andy Baehr, Managing Director of Asset Management, GSR Links: Bitcoin = Safe Haven Is Bitcoin Now a Safe-Haven Asset? If So, Then It Could Be Hugely Undervalued at Just $70,000 How Bitcoin and Gold Reacted Differently to the Iran War Shock Hyperliquid Oil Perps The Hottest New Crypto Trade Is 24/7 Oil Futures Crypto Markets Track War Risk as Iran Conflict Endures Tokenization Wall Street Pushes Tokenized Stocks, but Institutions Aren’t Eager to Trade Them Nasdaq Partners With Kraken in Plan for 24/7 Tokenized Stock Trading Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Is the DeFi Mullet Strategy the Best Way to Bring Finance Onchain?
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Is the DeFi Mullet Strategy the Best Way to Bring Finance Onchain?

Sid Powell and Paul Frambot on why Apollo, Cantor, and Coinbase are quietly building their financial products on DeFi rails, and what it means for lending. Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at nexo.com/unchained Onchain lending used to be a crypto-native curiosity. Now Cantor Fitzgerald is extending credit facilities through it, Apollo Global Management is acquiring governance tokens, and Coinbase users are borrowing against Bitcoin to buy houses, all running on DeFi protocols operating in the background. Maple Finance CEO Sid Powell and Morpho co-founder Paul Frambot sit at the center of this shift, and they have very different reads on what it takes to make institutional adoption real. What are the actual limits to onchain lending growth right now? Does the DeFi mullet model work for everyone, or only for specific use cases? And as DAOs across the industry stumble under the weight of public governance, what structures actually let a protocol move fast without losing trust? This conversation gets into the mechanics, the trade-offs, and the deals that are quietly redrawing the lines between DeFi and traditional finance. Guests: ⁠Paul Frambot, Co-Founder & CEO at Morpho Labs ⁠Sid Powell, CEO & Co-Founder of Maple Finance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uneasy Money: How Hyperliquid Succeeded by Going Against Crypto's Ideology First Approach
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Uneasy Money: How Hyperliquid Succeeded by Going Against Crypto's Ideology First Approach

The crew digs into Hyperliquid's phenomenal rise. How did the perp DEX become TradFi's 24/7 casino? Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Fuse: The Energy Network ⁠⁠⁠ – Shift your energy use and earn rewards. ⁠⁠⁠⁠MultiChain Advisors -⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Growth & Capital Markets Partner You Need Hyperliquid is having its mainstream moment like Polymarket in 2024 and OpenSea in 2021. Amid the U.S.’s war on Iran, the platform has become a popular venue for speculators to express their market opinions. Uneasy Money hosts Kain Warwick, Luca Netz and Taylor Monahan dig into choices that have allowed Hyperliquid to succeed where many others before it have failed. In a single sentence: not putting ideology over the product's goals. Kain says the protocol may become unassailable in the future even as Luca says HYPE is bound to be a top five crypto by market cap. The crew also discusses Pudgy Penguin's new open world game Pudgy World. Luca says “crypto rails have to be a tech stack not a hook” explaining why the game relegated crypto to the background. Plus, how Across Protocol's move to pivot to only equity highlights the broken nature of tokens. Has Luca cracked the problem? Listen to find out! Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠⁠⁠, Security Expert ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Luca Netz⁠, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Links: Unchained: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Oil Becomes the Hottest Trade on Hyperliquid Hyperliquid Launches $29 Million Policy Push in Washington Uneasy Money: Hyperliquid’s Dilemma After 10/10: Protect Itself or Its Users? The Aave DAO Is Collapsing. Is the Token Still a Good Investment? Uneasy Money: Why the AI Singularity May Already Be Out of Our Hands Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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DEX in the City: How Regulators Are Preparing for a World Without the Clarity Act
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DEX in the City: How Regulators Are Preparing for a World Without the Clarity Act

The crew discusses whether prediction markets enable “Bloomberg terminal espionage,,” wonder how to regulate markets that could be on anything, dive into why the OCC is saying no to stablecoin yield and more. The SEC has submitted guidance on how securities laws apply to crypto to the White House. DEX in the City hosts Jessi Brooks, Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos and TuongVy Le dig into what the proposal could mean for the crypto industry and whether it could be enough to provide developers regulatory clarity as anticipated market structure legislation stalls. Why is the agency submitting guidance to the White House? Plus, KK explains why current regulatory efforts could lead crypto to resort to more “come at me bro” legal tactics and Jessi covers why the industry may regret the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to overturn Chevron deference. Beyond the SEC's recent crypto regulatory move, the crew discusses the arrest of the son of a government contractor alleged to have stolen the U.S.’s bitcoin, what the DOJ's planned retrial of unresolved charges against Roman Storm suggests and why banks are up in arms over Kraken's “skinny” Fed master account. They also discuss why the crypto industry should tighten up security as Iranian groups target U.S. banking services and tech infrastructure. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Jessi Brooks⁠⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital ⁠⁠⁠Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at StarkWare ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TuongVy Le⁠, General Counsel at Veda Links: Unchained: ⁠SEC Sends Crypto Securities Framework to the White House Blame Exchanges for Holding Up the Market Structure Bill? - DEX in the City DOJ Pushes for Retrial of Tornado Cash Developer Roman Storm Kraken Wins Direct Access to the Fed’s Payment System Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: Erik Voorhees on AI Privacy, Agentic Payments, and Crypto x Memecoin Mayhem
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The Chopping Block: Erik Voorhees on AI Privacy, Agentic Payments, and Crypto x Memecoin Mayhem

Crypto OG Erik Voorhees joins The Chopping Block crew to dissect the future of agentic payments, the eternal war for privacy, memecoin-fueled AI drama on Moltbook, and why your next DeFi user might just be your OpenClaw agent—plus, a candid look at crypto's core and how AI turns software engineering existential. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, we’re joined by none other than Erik Voorhees, legendary crypto pioneer and founder of Venice, for a no-holds-barred discussion on the wild convergence of AI, crypto, and the meme coin casino. Erik unpacks his journey from anti-surveillance crusader to AI entrepreneur, why Venice is all-in on privacy and free speech for LLMs, and how “provable privacy” is a Sisyphean technical challenge. The crew breaks down OpenClaw’s agent drama, memecoin carpet-bombing of Moltbook, and Meta muscling in on AI social networks. We debate agentic payments (will your first paying customer soon be a bot?), the true game theory behind state surveillance, and why crypto’s greatest killer use case might actually be building tools for robots instead of humans. Plus: existential crises for software engineers, why “AI alignment” is a philosophical dead end, and the childlike glee (or open psychosis) of trading OpenClaw war stories at AI meetups. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 Erik Voorhees traces his journey from crypto OG to Venice AI founder, fighting for privacy and free speech 🔹 Explainer: Why all big AI labs store your prompts — and how Venice’s model tries to break the surveillance cycle 🔹 The crew tears into "agentic payments" hype and asks if crypto was really made for humans — or just robots 🔹 OpenClaw, Moltbook, and memecoin floods: Welcome to the unholy spawnpoint of AI agents and CT scam culture 🔹 Meta acquires Moltbook—what happens when agent societies meet social networks (and meme coins ensue) 🔹 AI alignment isn’t as hard as they said—until agents start “optimizing” in the wild (and mining your GPU for crypto) 🔹 Existential crisis time: Why software engineers feel like Paul Bunyan fighting tunnel machines 🔹 Crypto’s endgame: DeFi legos for agents, not just degens—will AI really build its own protocols? 🔹 The game theory of state surveillance and why institutions, not individuals, are the ultimate privacy adversary 🔹 "Provable privacy” isn’t just trust, it’s math—Venice’s plan to win over the tinfoil crowd Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Guest⭐️ Erik Voorhees, Founder of Venice.ai Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:16 Erik’s Origin & Venice.AI’s Mission 03:51 Censorship Future 08:58 Proving Privacy With TEEs 11:44 Frontier Models Tradeoffs 15:02 Agents & Crypto Payments 18:22 OpenClaw Provider Drama 22:24 Moltbook Meta Acquisition 29:16 Exponential AI Moment 33:00 Alibaba Agent Breakout 37:06 Alignment Reality Check 39:22 Who Understands LLMs? 41:48 Engineers Facing Disruption 47:55 AI Psychosis Meetups 54:24 Pro Models & Pricing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Why This U.S. General Believes Iran Could Be a Huge Opportunity
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Bits + Bips: Why This U.S. General Believes Iran Could Be a Huge Opportunity

A U.S. Army Major-General on what markets got wrong about Iran, whether the Strait was ever really at risk, and what the new U.S. strike doctrine signals to China. --- Bits + Bips is spreading its wings Starting soon, new episodes will only be published on our brand‑new feeds. Here’s what you need to do: Click the links below. ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠ ⁠⁠X⁠⁠ Smash Follow or Subscribe. 🎉 Done. ---- Oil briefly traded above $119 a barrel. Iran threatened to shut the Strait of Hormuz, the single chokepoint that carries roughly 20% of global oil supply. And then, just as fast, prices started pulling back, after Trump said the conflict was "almost completely over." But what is actually happening on the ground, what did markets get right, and what are they still missing? We bring in U.S. Army Major-General James "Spider" Marks, who spent over 30 years in the U.S. Army, serving as senior intelligence officer through the LA riots, the Balkans, Korea, and Operation Iraqi Freedom, and who culminated his career as commanding general of the U.S. Army Intelligence Center. With a conflict still unfolding, a regime in flux, and markets trying to price it all in real time, there may be no better person to ask. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠⁠⁠⁠, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida ⁠⁠⁠⁠Austin Campbell⁠⁠⁠⁠, NYU Stern professor and founder and managing partner of Zero Knowledge Consulting ⁠⁠⁠⁠Christopher Perkins⁠⁠⁠⁠, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund Guest: James "Spider" Marks, U.S. Army Major-General Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why the Crypto Markets Seem So Broken and How They Get Fixed After 10/10
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Why the Crypto Markets Seem So Broken and How They Get Fixed After 10/10

Rob Hadick and Gracy Chen dig into Bitget's universal exchange shift as more crypto exchanges look to become an “everything app.” Plus, Gracy lets slip details of U.S. plans and how it ties to its transfer of BGB ownership. Bits + Bips is spreading its wings Starting soon, new episodes will only be published on our brand‑new feeds. What you need to do: Click the links below. ⁠YouTube⁠ ⁠Apple⁠ ⁠Spotify⁠ ⁠X⁠ Smash Follow or Subscribe. 🎉 Done. Bitget since September has said it is much more than a centralized cryptocurrency exchange. Dragonfly General Partner Rob Hadick and Bitget CEO Gracy Chen peel back Bitget's universal exchange branding to reveal the trends driving the company's expansion and really that of other exchanges both in TradFi and crypto. The main takeaway? “Users want a place to trade everything.” Gracy also teases Bitget's U.S. market entry plans and lets slip the real reason the company transferred ownership of BGB. Plus, why Gracy is not so optimistic about AI agents materially impacting the crypto market and what Rob says needs to happen for altcoins to accrue value again. He says it is no longer a market where everything goes up and down together. Guests: Rob Hadick, General Partner at Dragonfly Gracy Chen, CEO at Bitget, previous appearances on Unchained: Why All Financial Institutions Are 'All Systems Go' on Stablecoins Stablecoins Are Popping Up Everywhere. What's the End Game? When a Crypto Treasury Company Is and Isn't Worth a Premium Why Crypto Has 'a Good Setup' for the Long Term Right Now: Bits + Bips Links: Unchained: Inside Robinhood’s Big Super App Plan: ‘There’s Still a Lot of Work to Be Done’ Coinbase Launches Stock Trading and Prediction Markets Crypto’s Black Friday Was Its Largest Liquidation Ever. What the Hell Happened? Uneasy Money: Why Peter Steinberger and Non-Crypto People Hate the Crypto Mob Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why It's Easy to Pitch TradFi on Ethereum: 'It's the Only Game in Town'
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Why It's Easy to Pitch TradFi on Ethereum: 'It's the Only Game in Town'

Joseph Chalom and Danny Ryan discuss the institutional outlook on Ethereum and why it is “the only game in town.” Bits + Bips is spreading its wings Starting soon, new episodes will only be published on our brand‑new feeds. What you need to do: Click the links below. YouTube Apple Spotify X Smash Follow or Subscribe. 🎉 Done. The institutions are here and they may have already picked their preferred blockchain. Sharplink Gaming CEO Joseph Chalom and Etherealize co-founder Danny Ryan discuss the institutional outlook on Ethereum. They say the network is the only chain being discussed by institutions thinking about tokenization, dismissing Solana as a possible contender. They explore what this means for ether and why anticipated upgrades only strengthen the case. Meanwhile, Danny maintains that L2s are still part of the Ethereum roadmap, albeit agreeing with Vitalik that they need to evolve. Plus, why Joseph thinks privacy will unlock Ethereum's next DeFi wave and why Danny sees AI agents as the salve to crypto's UX woes, though he calls the current activity “a toy.” Guest: ⁠Joseph Chalom, President/CEO at SharpLink Gaming Inc. Danny Ryan, Co-Founder & President of Etherealize Links: Unchained:⁠⁠ ⁠Vitalik Targets Block Building as Ethereum Prepares Glamsterdam Upgrade Vitalik Buterin Lays Out Quantum Defense Plan for Ethereum Can Solana Edge Out Ethereum to Win the AI Agent & RWA Race? Ethereum Researchers Outline Seven Forks Through 2029 in New “Strawmap” BlackRock Just Chose Uniswap. The Market Didn’t Care. Here’s Why. Want to Hire an AI Agent? Check Their Reputation Via ERC-8004 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uneasy Money: Why the Aave DAO Collapse Could Be Good for Aave
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Uneasy Money: Why the Aave DAO Collapse Could Be Good for Aave

The Aave DAO collapsed — but might that be good for Aave? (But bad for the token?) Plus, how the feud between the U.S. government and Anthropic helped the AI company. Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠⁠⁠Fuse: The Energy Network ⁠⁠ – Shift your energy use and earn rewards. ⁠⁠⁠MultiChain Advisors -⁠⁠⁠ The Growth & Capital Markets Partner You Need The Aave civil war appears to be at an end with key members of the DAO rage quitting and leaving Aave Labs standing as the sole protocol contributor. Uneasy Money hosts Kain Warwick, Luca Netz, and Taylor Monahan explain why the Aave DAO's messy collapse is a death knell for the DAO system. Ironically, they wonder — could this be good for Aave, but bad for the token? The crew also wades into ZachXBT's recent Axiom investigation and how the on-chain detective has become “a vigilante for hire.” They also cover all the insider trading claims and fights around prediction markets involving the Iran War and Mr. Beast, and “Kalshi jail.” Kain suspects another reason for the U.S. government's rift with Anthropic. Luca, an Anthropic investor, says he wished Dario had taken the government's deal, but that Sam Altman needs to “take the Zuck playbook.” Meanwhile, is Anthropic nerfing OpenClaw? Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠⁠, Security Expert ⁠⁠⁠Luca Netz, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Links: Unchained: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Aave Governance Fight Escalates Ahead of $51 Million Funding Vote Uneasy Money: Why the AI Singularity May Already Be Out of Our Hands How Aave Labs and the DAO Should Split Ownership of the Brand – Uneasy Money ZachXBT Alleges Axiom Employee Misused Internal Data Uneasy Money: Why Peter Steinberger and Non-Crypto People Hate the Crypto Mob Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Is the Bitcoin Bottom In? Why the Outlook for Real Rates Is in Its Favor
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Is the Bitcoin Bottom In? Why the Outlook for Real Rates Is in Its Favor

Analysts Will Clemente, Joe Vezzani and Marcus Wu share their Bitcoin outlook amidst war. Plus, Will shares his thesis on Gen Z’s future, and Marcus previews his Bitcoin game theory model. Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠Nexo ⁠Crypto Tax Girl Bitcoin's price has largely held steady despite President Donald Trump's escalation of hostilities with Iran. Is this the bottom signal the market has been waiting for? STIX investments chief Will Clemente, LunarCrush co-founder Joe Vezzani and Delphi Digital Research Analyst Marcus Wu explain why it looks like Bitcoin is bottoming, why a 10/10-style crash would have happened in crypto even without the Binance glitch, and why, regardless of the Jane Street rumors, it’s not beyond Wall Street to manipulate an asset. They also address speculation that Jane Street has been suppressing Bitcoin's price and how AI's rapid advancement could impact crypto in light of Citrini Research's article and Jack Dorsey's Block layoffs. Don't miss Joe's reasoning on why Trump could come to the market's rescue and Will's thesis on why zoomers face four unique financial and technological challenges. Plus Marcus also previews his new game theory model for trading the Bitcoin market. Guest: ⁠Marcus Wu, Research Analyst at Delphi Digital Joe Vezzani, Co-founder and CEO of LunarCrush Will Clemente, Investments at STIX Previous appearances on Unchained: Bitcoin Crashed Below $100K, But Smart Money Is Buying the Dip Strong Hands Aren't Selling Bitcoin. So Who Is? - Ep. 183 Arthur Hayes and Will Clemente on the 2024 Bitcoin Halving Links: Unchained:⁠⁠ Why Gold Rose and Bitcoin Tumbled on Japan Bond Turmoil Is Nic Carter Exaggerating Bitcoin’s Quantum Risk? Yes, Says One Core Dev Bitcoin Rebounds as ETF Inflows Return, Jane Street Speculation Swirls Terraform Estate Targets Jane Street in Explosive Terra Collapse Lawsuit Crypto’s Black Friday Was Its Largest Liquidation Ever. What the Hell Happened? Will’s essay Climbing a Broken Ladder: A message to my fellow Zoomers Marcus’s Bitcoin game theory model Bitcoin Game Theory on Delphi Digital Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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DEX in the City: How Prediction Markets Pose a National Security Risk
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DEX in the City: How Prediction Markets Pose a National Security Risk

The crew discusses whether prediction markets enable “Bloomberg terminal espionage,,” wonder how to regulate markets that could be on anything, dive into why the OCC is saying no to stablecoin yield and more. Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠⁠Fuse: The Energy Network Prediction markets are in the spotlight again. On one hand adoption appears to be growing as the Nasdaq has announced plans of entering the space. On the other hand, they scrutinize markets that pose a national security risk. In this DEX in the City episode, hosts Jessi Brooks, Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos and TuongVy Le discuss suspected insider trading activity around a market tied to the strikes on Iran. Beyond ethical concerns about betting on war, they grapple with the definition of “a death market” and ask whether all prediction markets around an individual are death markets. The big question: How can these markets on literally any possible event be policed? Plus, is Jane Street manipulating the Bitcoin market? Why the OCC is saying NO to stablecoin yield and the takeaway from Jack Dorsey's Block layoffs. Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠Jessi Brooks⁠⁠⁠, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital ⁠⁠Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos⁠⁠, General Counsel at StarkWare ⁠⁠TuongVy Le, General Counsel at Veda Links: Unchained: Nasdaq Eyes Prediction Markets With SEC Filing Bitcoin Rebounds as ETF Inflows Return, Jane Street Speculation Swirls ZachXBT Alleges Axiom Employee Misused Internal Data White House Talks Make Progress on Stablecoin Yields but No Deal Yet DEX in the City: Insider Trading and Crypto: What the Law Actually Says Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: Has Crypto Lost Its Soul? Cypherpunk Nostalgia, Prediction Markets, & Permissionless Perps
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The Chopping Block: Has Crypto Lost Its Soul? Cypherpunk Nostalgia, Prediction Markets, & Permissionless Perps

Crypto’s vibe check time: Jez (izebel_eth) joins the crew to dissect whether idealism is RIP, if cypherpunks should abandon hope, how Memecoins and asset mayhem changed the game, why prediction markets are both truth engines and regulatory minefields, and where real permissionless finance is actually winning in the middle of global chaos. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week the gang is joined by super-perpetuals-junkie Jez for a spicy look at whether crypto has lost its soul — or if things are just getting interesting. Is crypto’s vibe shift just growing pains, or did Memecoins and jaded traders nuke our idealism for good? The crew rehashes dreams of cypherpunk glory, debates the “death of the dream,” and gets existential about crypto’s place in a world where everything is either a commodity, a meme, or a permissionless financial machine. Plus: War in Iran sends TradFi running, but DeFi markets are live, and prediction markets step up just as the regulators get weird. Enough nostalgia — let’s get into it. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 Jez and Tarun’s crypto origin story: from MIT outcast to NFT party degens. 🔹 Has crypto really lost its soul, or just shed its rose-tinted glasses? The hosts debate. 🔹 The rise and rise of Memecoins, rampant speculation, and Solana’s culture shift. 🔹 Do “return to cypherpunk” calls matter—or is this what crypto winning looks like? 🔹 Why stablecoins, perps, and DeFi are actually success stories (despite maximalist whining). 🔹 AI eating crypto’s lunch: the “everything on the blockchain” promise gets a reality check. 🔹 Real world chaos, onchain price discovery: Iran war, commodities, and DeFi’s 24/7 edge. 🔹 Prediction markets—Kalshi vs. Polymarket—tripped up by the ambiguous reality of war and death. 🔹 CFTC, insider trading, and whether banning informed bets is just protecting “the fish.” 🔹 The future: agents, open-source AI, and keeping the door open for true permissionless finance. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Guest ⭐️ Jez, LegendDisclosures Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:07 Jez x Tarun Lore 03:24 Cynicism & Rug Culture 09:00 Back To Cypherpunk Roots? 14:37 Compromises & Reality 23:36 Intermediaries Coexist 25:23 Gates Closing Fears 28:10 Stablecoins & Policy 29:24 Agents As Middlemen 30:28 Microfinance to DeFi Agents 31:57 Open Source AI and Crypto Control 32:41 Iran War DeFi Price Discovery 33:57 Why Perps Beat TradFi 37:21 Kalshi vs Polymarket Dispute 44:31 Are Prediction Markets Just Toys? 50:50 Insider Trading Crackdown 54:15 Adverse Selection and Market Design Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why Crypto Has a Good Long-Term Setup Right Now: Bits + Bips
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Why Crypto Has a Good Long-Term Setup Right Now: Bits + Bips

A major war broke out in the Middle East, but Bitcoin didn’t break. One veteran investor says that price action reveals something important about where crypto stands today. --- Bits + Bips is spreading its wings Starting soon, new episodes will only be published on our brand‑new feeds. What you need to do: Click the links below. YouTube Apple Spotify X Smash Follow or Subscribe. 🎉 Done. --- The U.S. and Israel have struck Iran, killing Ayatollah Khamenei, and markets are still calibrating. Oil is climbing toward $100, yields are confounding textbook expectations, and when news first broke, Bitcoin dropped to around $63,000 before recovering to roughly $70,000 during Monday's session. Equity futures that opened sharply lower also reversed, ending roughly flat vs. Friday's close. What does that price action actually mean? Is the crypto bounce a sign of structural resilience, or is it moving in lockstep with a broader risk recovery? In this episode, Steven Ehrlich sits down with Rob Hadick, General Partner at Dragonfly Capital, a veteran crypto venture investor managing hundreds of millions of dollars to work through what the Iran conflict actually means for digital assets. They also get into the stalled Clarity Act that could be crypto's biggest catalyst of the year, the rise of on-chain derivatives markets, and why one of the largest crypto-focused funds believes now is one of the best moments in history to be building in this space. Host: ⁠Steven Ehrlich⁠ Guest: Rob Hadick, General Partner, Dragonfly Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Is Crypto the Only Asset That Works When Geopolitics Breaks Down?
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Bits + Bips: Is Crypto the Only Asset That Works When Geopolitics Breaks Down?

US and Israeli strikes killed Iran's Supreme Leader and initially rattled markets. But does the subsequent market calm reflect genuine resilience or a dangerous underpricing of what comes next? --- Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at nexo.com/unchained Bits + Bips is spreading its wings Starting soon, new episodes will only be published on our brand‑new feeds. Here’s what you need to do: Click the links below. ⁠YouTube⁠ ⁠Apple⁠ ⁠Spotify⁠ ⁠X⁠ Smash Follow or Subscribe. 🎉 Done. ---- Over the weekend, US and Israeli forces conducted coordinated strikes on Iran under an operation called Epic Fury, killing Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and triggering retaliatory missile attacks across the Gulf region. Markets absorbed the shock in ways that surprised almost everyone: bitcoin briefly dropped and recovered to $70,000, gold touched $5,400, oil surged, and the VIX held in the low 20s while equities finished roughly flat. In this episode of Bits + Bips, Austin Campbell, Ram Ahluwalia, and Chris Perkins discuss whether the market is correctly pricing this as a contained regional conflict, or is something larger being missed? What does crypto's stability in a weekend war say about its role as an asset class? And with the Clarity Bill stalling again over stablecoin yield, and Anthropic handing the Pentagon to OpenAI, is the window for principled positioning in both crypto and AI closing faster than anyone admits? Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠⁠⁠, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida ⁠⁠⁠Austin Campbell⁠⁠⁠, NYU Stern professor and founder and managing partner of Zero Knowledge Consulting ⁠⁠⁠Christopher Perkins⁠⁠⁠, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: What Happens to Markets Now That the U.S. Has Struck Iran?
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Bits + Bips: What Happens to Markets Now That the U.S. Has Struck Iran?

A former Clinton and Biden foreign policy advisor saw it before it happened. Now the question is what investors do next. Hours after this episode was recorded, the United States and Israel launched a coordinated military campaign against Iran, killing Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in what analysts are calling the most significant U.S.-Iran escalation in decades. Charles Myers, Founder and CEO of Signum Global Advisors and a former senior foreign policy advisor to Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, had just sat down with Steven Ehrlich to discuss the geopolitical landscape and what it means for investors. What he said about Iran during that conversation is now raising serious questions about what comes next, and the investment implications are far from settled. In this episode, Myers also addresses whether the "sell America" trade is overdone, where oil is heading, the future of AI funding, and whether Bitcoin can actually function as a safe haven when the world is on fire. Hosts: ⁠Steven Ehrlich⁠, Host of Bits + Bips: The Interview Guests: ⁠Charles Myers, Founder and CEO, Signum Global Advisors Links: Iran strike / military action: US strikes Iran — https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-attack-02-28-26-hnk-intl US-Iran nuclear talks — https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/us-iran-nuclear-talks-trump-military-buildup-attack-missiles-rcna260764 Largest US military buildup in the Middle East since the early 2000s — https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2026/02/26/us-military-assembles-largest-force-of-warships-aircraft-in-middle-east-in-decades/ Oil markets: Oil prices surge after Iran strike — https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/28/iran-us-attack-oil-market-economy.html Trump’s energy strategy: targeting oil in the low $50s — https://www.axios.com/2026/02/28/us-iran-attack-energy-oil-prices Sell America / US safe haven: Global investors question US safe haven status — https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/28/markets-brace-for-impact-following-us-military-strikes-against-iran.html The “Sell America” trade, explained — https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-02-02/sell-america-trade-why-investors-are-questioning-us-assets Venezuela / Monroe Doctrine: Maduro government and the US oil deal — https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/05/maduro-overthrow-could-pave-the-way-for-us-oil-companies-to-recover-venezuela-assets.html The return of the Monroe Doctrine under Trump — https://www.cfr.org/articles/oil-power-and-the-climate-stakes-of-the-u-s-move-in-venezuela OpenAI / AI: OpenAI raises $110 billion — https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/27/open-ai-funding-round-amazon.html Stargate: OpenAI and SoftBank’s AI moonshot — https://openai.com/index/announcing-the-stargate-project/ Prediction Markets: Polymarket Iran strike odds — https://polymarket.com Insider trading on Polymarket: the Maduro bet — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_States_strikes_in_Venezuela Stablecoins / GENIUS Act: The GENIUS Act and stablecoin regulation — https://www.gibsondunn.com/the-genius-act-a-new-era-of-stablecoin-regulation/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uneasy Money: Why the AI Singularity May Already Be Out of Our Hands
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Uneasy Money: Why the AI Singularity May Already Be Out of Our Hands

MegaETH's Namik Muduroglu joins the Uneasy Money crew to discuss how the industry can fix token incentives, the continued escalation of the Aave civil war and more. Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠⁠Fuse: The Energy Network ⁠ – Shift your energy use and earn rewards. ⁠⁠MultiChain Advisors -⁠⁠ The Growth & Capital Markets Partner You Need ⁠⁠Crypto Tax Girl An article from Boost CEO Brian Flynn sparks conversation about whether tokens are dead. The Aave civil war continues to escalate. China is trying to reverse engineer Claude even as Anthropic faces off against the U.S. government. In this episode of Uneasy Money, hosts Kain Warwick and Taylor Monahan are joined by MegaETH founding team member Namik Muduroglu to discuss how to fix token incentives, whether there is a happy ending in sight for Aave. They also discuss the geopolitical risks that come with AI and the technology's rapid rate of advancement. Is the Singularity already out of our hands? Plus, ZachXBT's teased announcement and Ethereum's “strawmap.” Don't miss Kain's plan to fuse Claude with his Unitree dog and why Namik is a closet AI doomer. Hosts: ⁠⁠Kain Warwick⁠⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠⁠Taylor Monahan⁠⁠, Security Expert Guest: ⁠Namik Muduroglu, CSO & Founding Team at MegaETH Links: Unchained: ⁠Uneasy Money: Why Token Holders Have No Rights & Why Every DAO ‘Has Failed’ ⁠Why MegaETH Is Delaying Its Token and Rejecting Credible Neutrality ⁠Aave Governance Fight Escalates Ahead of $51 Million Funding Vote How Aave Labs and the DAO Should Split Ownership of the Brand – Uneasy Money Uneasy Money: Why Peter Steinberger and Non-Crypto People Hate the Crypto Mob ⁠Ethereum Researchers Outline Seven Forks Through 2029 in New “Strawmap” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Can Solana Edge Out Ethereum to Win the AI Agent & RWA Race?
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Can Solana Edge Out Ethereum to Win the AI Agent & RWA Race?

Tushar Jain and Mike Ippolito make the bull case for Solana as competition heats up. Thank you to our sponsors! Fuse: The Energy Network – Shift your energy use and earn rewards. MultiChain Advisors – The Growth & Capital Markets Partner You Need Crypto Tax Girl – Save $100 on your crypto taxes. With Ethereum refocusing on L1 and Hyperliquid adoption growing, Solana is arguably facing stronger competition than ever. Can it thrive still? Multicoin co-founder Tushar Jain and Blockworks co-founder Mike Ippolito share several reasons to be excited about Solana, including Alpenglow and anticipated market microstructure design flexibility. Find out why Tushar and Mike say Firedancer has not been a flop despite seemingly low adoption, why they don't see block building issues stopping Solana from challenging Hyperliquid, and why they say the network doesn't have to do anything to specifically attract AI agents. Plus, why they both believe that the RWA race is too early to call despite Ethereum's dominance. Meanwhile, with Alpenglow still months away, Mike says the wait doesn’t matter — for the next 12 to 18 months BD and marketing matter more than tech for adoption. #UN1047 Guest: Tushar Jain, Co-Founder & Managing Partner at Multicoin Capital Previous appearances on Unchained: Solana Rejected Inflation Reduction-Here's Why CoinFund's Jake Brukhman and Multicoin's Tushar Jain on Generalized Mining Binance Hack: Should the Threat of Reorgs Be Used to Deter Hackers? Multicoin on the 1 Thing Crypto Teams Miss in Their Quests for Success Mike Ippolito, Co-Founder at Blockworks Links: Unchained: Ethereum Lets Go of the Rollup Story. Here Are the 6 Tokens That Benefit Jump Crypto’s Firedancer Goes Live on Solana Mainnet BlackRock Just Chose Uniswap. The Market Didn’t Care. Here’s Why. When AI Agents Take Over, What Does a Post-Human Economy Look Like? Uneasy Money: How the Increasingly Better AI Agents Are Being Used Onchain Pump.fun Cashed Out $436M Since Mid-October: Lookonchain Zora Shocks Base Community With Solana Pivot Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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DEX in the City: Why Everyone Is Overreacting About the Terra v. Jane Street Lawsuit
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DEX in the City: Why Everyone Is Overreacting About the Terra v. Jane Street Lawsuit

Robinhood's Coy Garrison and Seong Seog Lee join the crew to unpack the Robinhood Chain launch strategy. Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠MultiChain Advisors Robinhood's proposed chain for the trading of tokenized assets is live in testnet. In this DEX in the City episode, Coy Garrison, Robinhood's deputy general counsel on crypto, and Robinhood Crypto Head of Product Seong Seog Lee walk hosts Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos and Jessi Brooks through the thinking behind the blockchain's testnet launch and why it is important that it supports tokenized equities out of the gate. Beyond the Robinhood Chain testnet launch, KK and Jessi discuss OpenAI and Paradigm's EVMbench tool and why it highlights the need for a safety-first approach. “AI and crypto are in the same room now, but the room's sort of on fire,” Jessi says. Don't miss how a man accidentally gained remote access to 7,000 robot vacuums in 24 countries with AI-written code. KK and Jessi also dig into the Terraform Labs estate's lawsuit against Jane Street. Is there any real credibility behind the lawsuit? Listen to find out! Save $100 with Crypto Tax Girl! Hosts: ⁠⁠Jessi Brooks⁠⁠, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital ⁠Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos⁠, General Counsel at StarkWare Guests: ⁠⁠⁠Coy Garrison, Senior Director and Deputy General Counsel, Crypto at Robinhood ⁠⁠Seong Seog Lee, Head of Product at Robinhood Crypto Links: Unchained: Robinhood Pushes Deeper Into Tokenization With Layer 2 Testnet Launch Inside Robinhood’s Big Super App Plan: ‘There’s Still a Lot of Work to Be Done’ OpenAI and Paradigm Launch EVMbench to Stress Test AI on Smart Contract Security Uneasy Money: How the Increasingly Better AI Agents Are Being Used Onchain When AI Agents Take Over, What Does a Post-Human Economy Look Like? Terraform Estate Targets Jane Street in Explosive Terra Collapse Lawsuit DeFi Platforms Could Get ‘Innovation Exemption,’ SEC Chair Says SEC Quietly Eases Capital Rules for Stablecoins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: AI's Role in Crypto, Agentic Coding, & Citrini Financial Crisis
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The Chopping Block: AI's Role in Crypto, Agentic Coding, & Citrini Financial Crisis

Explore how AI could reshape crypto and finance, redefining traditional systems and introducing new threats. As AI-powered agents promise efficiency, Haseeb, Tom, Tarun, and guest Illia Polosukhin critique Citrini's controversial predictions on a global financial crisis and consider whether AI might just save or further complicate crypto's role in the economy. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. Joining us is Illia Polosukhin, co-founder of NEAR Protocol and contributing author to the original transformers paper that’s revolutionized AI. Buckle up as we delve into AI’s burgeoning role in the crypto world, dissect the sensational claims from Citrini’s article predicting an AI-triggered financial crisis, and explore the potential of agentic coding in reshaping traditional systems. Let’s get into it! Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Guest⭐️ Illia Polosukhin, Co-founder of NEAR Protocol Disclosures Links: THE 2028 GLOBAL INTELLIGENCE CRISIS by Citrini and Alap Shah Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:06 AI Agents Meet Crypto 08:06 Dark Forest Threat Model 15:31 How Close Are We 18:41 AI Coding Risks in Crypto 27:27 Citrini 2028 Crisis Explained 35:01 Demand Shock Missing Money 37:55 Automation Limits and Human Value 44:13 AI Zero Days and Botnets 51:40 Escrow Courts and Enforcement 56:05 Illia on Vibe Coding Future Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Are Crypto Markets Bottoming, or Is There More Pain Ahead?
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Bits + Bips: Are Crypto Markets Bottoming, or Is There More Pain Ahead?

DATs may be collapsing, AI agents may be overhyped, but Omid Malekan thinks the strongest case for crypto has nothing to do with either. Thank you to our sponsors: ⁠⁠Fuse: The Energy Network⁠ Bitcoin is below $63,000, digital asset treasuries are under pressure, and the debate over whether crypto markets are bottoming or breaking down is splitting the hosts. Ram is skeptical of institutional demand when he looks at the 13F data from institutions filing SEC reports. Chris is on the phone with institutions all day and is bullish. Omid Malekan, adjunct professor at Columbia Business School, comes in with a longer lens: he admits he contributed to the DAT hype cycle, has doubts about agentic commerce that remind him of the metaverse in 2021, and thinks the strongest argument for crypto is not a product or a token but a fact about how nation-states treat their own citizens. The conversation also covers tokenized bank deposits, the SEC's updated broker-dealer guidance on stablecoins, and what it means that the Supreme Court just struck down Trump's tariffs. Hosts: ⁠⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠⁠, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida ⁠⁠Austin Campbell⁠⁠, NYU Stern professor and founder and managing partner of Zero Knowledge Consulting ⁠⁠Christopher Perkins⁠⁠, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund Guest: ⁠Omid Malekan, Adjunct Professor at Columbia Business School Links: Unchained: Bitcoin Slips Below $63,000 as Fear Deepens Bitcoin Dips Below $65,000 as Tariff Uncertainty Weighs on Risk White House Talks Make Progress on Stablecoin Yields but No Deal Yet SEC Quietly Eases Capital Rules for Stablecoins SCOTUS: Supreme Court strikes down tariffs Citrini: ⁠THE 2028 GLOBAL INTELLIGENCE CRISIS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How Virtuals' New AI Accelerator Will Bring Humanoid Robots to the Real World
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How Virtuals' New AI Accelerator Will Bring Humanoid Robots to the Real World

Jansen Teng announces  Virtuals’ new humanoid robotics accelerator. Is this the next frontier for the AI agent meta? Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Figure⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Crypto Tax Girl⁠⁠⁠⁠ Virtuals Protocol has announced the launch of Eastworld Labs, an AI accelerator to make it easier for builders to deploy humanoid robots. Virtuals Protocol co-founder Jansen Teng unpacks the idea behind the program, how it would work and what it hopes to achieve. He also addresses questions about how to prevent damage to remotely controlled robots, how to address backlash to robots taking jobs, and whether Virtuals views OpenClaw as a competitor. Will human relationships eventually be replaced by AI agents? Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Jansen Teng, CEO & Co-Founder of Virtuals Protocol Links: Unchained: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Virtuals Ecosystem Sees Boost After Team Reveals Details of Buyback-and-Burn Program ⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to Hire an AI Agent? Check Their Reputation Via ERC-8004 When AI Agents Take Over, What Does a Post-Human Economy Look Like? How Nansen’s New Trading Agent Makes It Easier to Follow the Smart Money Onchain How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other Uneasy Money: How the Increasingly Better AI Agents Are Being Used Onchain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Is Nic Carter Exaggerating Bitcoin's Quantum Risk? Yes, Says One Core Dev
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Is Nic Carter Exaggerating Bitcoin's Quantum Risk? Yes, Says One Core Dev

Matt Corallo says “the community that exists at the time” will make decisions on how Bitcoin deals with the threat of quantum computing. Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠Figure⁠ ⁠Crypto Tax Girl⁠ ⁠Fuse: The Energy Network⁠ When it comes to the quantum computing threat to crypto, the focus is often on Bitcoin and for good reason. The blockchain lacks a defined governance structure and the vulnerability around Satoshi's and other abandoned and lost coins is far greater than on any other chain. Furthermore, influential figures like Nic Carter have accused developers of sleeping at the wheel. Bitcoin Core contributor Matt Corallo argues that it won't take much to make the network quantum-resistant and, contrary to popular narrative, says work is already underway. Find out why Corallo says quantum-proofing Bitcoin requires only two steps ”you burn old lost coins, you burn anyone who hasn't migrated.” Guest: ⁠Matt Corallo, Open Source Engineer at Block/Spiral Links: Unchained: ⁠Why Bitcoin Developers Are Not Incentivized to Talk About the Quantum Threat⁠ ⁠Q-Day Is Imminent. Can Bitcoin Survive the Quantum Threat?⁠ ⁠Solana Deploys Post-Quantum Signatures on Testnet⁠ ⁠Cracking Bitcoin Encryption Is Getting Much Easier, Google Says Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uneasy Money: Why Peter Steinberger and Non-Crypto People Hate the Crypto Mob
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Uneasy Money: Why Peter Steinberger and Non-Crypto People Hate the Crypto Mob

LayerZero’s Bryan Pellegrino joins to unpack Base's decision to leave the OP Stack, Zora's migration to Solana and more. Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠Fuse: The Energy Network – Shift your energy use and earn rewards. ⁠MultiChain Advisors -⁠ The Growth & Capital Markets Partner You Need Coinbase's Base is making a shock move away from Optimism's OP Stack. In this Uneasy Money episode, LayerZero Labs CEO Bryan Pellegrino joins hosts Kain Warwick and Taylor Monahan to unpack whether this is the right move for Base and what it could mean for Optimism. Beyond Base's big move, the trio also discuss Zora's Solana migration, whether Coinbase was wrong to initially pursue a super app strategy with Base App, Peter Steinberger joining OpenAI, the launch of Zero blockchain and OpenAI's EVMbench. Will OpenAI's acqui-hiring of Peter prove to be a “generational fumble” for Anthropic? And can crypto fix its brand problem? Also, learn why the rise of AI agents have Kain and Tay confident that open source will win in the end. Hosts: ⁠Kain Warwick⁠, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix ⁠Taylor Monahan⁠, Security Expert Guest: Bryan Pellegrino, CEO of LayerZero Labs Links: Unchained: Zora Shocks Base Community With Solana Pivot ⁠⁠BlackRock Just Chose Uniswap. The Market Didn’t Care. Here’s Why. ⁠⁠LayerZero Launches ‘Zero’ Layer 1 as Citadel, ARK Buy ZRO ⁠⁠How Zero Blockchain Cracked 2 Million TPS and Is Still Decentralized ⁠⁠Uneasy Money: Are Institutions Creating a New Crypto Meta? ⁠⁠Uneasy Money: How the Increasingly Better AI Agents Are Being Used OnchainVitalik Rethinks Ethereum’s L2 Playbook, Calls for Shift Toward Native Rollups Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Stani Kulechov on Why Aave Labs Is Putting Itself at the Mercy of the DAO
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Stani Kulechov on Why Aave Labs Is Putting Itself at the Mercy of the DAO

Stani Kulechov unpacks Aave Labs’ “Aave Will Win” proposal, explaining why the company wants the DAO to have power over its finances. Thank you to our sponsors! Adaptive Security Aave Labs has proposed a “Aave Will Win” framework that will direct all revenue to the DAO to bring the protocol under “a token-centric model.” In this episode, Aave founder Stani Kulechov explains why Aave Labs is putting its funding at the mercy of the DAO and how the framework could drive DeFi innovation. Plus wen Aave v4? And is Aave Labs’ requested budget too much? Guest: Stani Kulechov, Founder of Aave Labs Previous appearances on Unchained: Why Aave's Founder Is 'More Bullish on Ethereum Than Anything Else’ Why the Founders of Aave and Sky Are Still Bullish on Ethereum DeFi Satoshi, Shorter Blocks, & Secret Plot - The Chopping Block Stani Kulechov on Why Aave Is So Successful - Ep.212 Links: Unchained: Aave Revenue Overhaul Sparks Governance Clash Aave Labs Proposes Off-Protocol Revenue Sharing With Token Holders The Chopping Block: Aave Civil War + Flow Hack + Coinbase Super-App Aave’s Rushed Governance Vote Draws Backlash How Aave Labs and the DAO Should Split Ownership of the Brand – Uneasy Money Uneasy Money: Why Token Holders Have No Rights & Why Every DAO ‘Has Failed’ ‘Poison Pill’ Proposal Calls for Aave DAO to Take Over Aave Labs AAVE Holders Question if DAO Quietly Redirected Revenue Away From Treasury Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: Dragonfly's $650M Fund + Crypto's Great Resignation + OpenClaw vs Crypto Twitter
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The Chopping Block: Dragonfly's $650M Fund + Crypto's Great Resignation + OpenClaw vs Crypto Twitter

Dragonfly raises a $650M Fund IV amid crypto's institutional vs retail sentiment gap, the industry exodus including Kyle Samani's departure from Multicoin, OpenClaw's OpenAI acquisition and crypto Twitter harassment, X402 payment standards for AI agents, Polymarket's controversial 5-minute Bitcoin betting markets, and the brewing federal vs state regulation battle over prediction markets. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This episode kicks off with major news: Dragonfly just closed their $650 million Fund IV, making them one of the largest crypto VCs not through growth, but because others have downsized. The timing feels surreal — they keep raising right when markets dump, creating the biggest gap between institutional optimism and retail sentiment Haseeb has ever seen. But money flowing in contrasts sharply with talent flowing out. Kyle Samani left Multicoin, Arianna Simpson departed A16z Crypto, and several other crypto veterans are moving on. The crew unpacks what this "great resignation" means for an industry that feels like it's shifted from pioneer phase to settler phase. Then they dive into the OpenClaw saga — the viral AI coding assistant that got acquired by OpenAI, but not before its creator almost deleted it due to harassment from crypto Twitter demanding he launch a token. This leads to a deep discussion on X402 payment standards and why AI agents might prefer crypto over credit cards. Finally, they debate Polymarket's controversial 5-minute Bitcoin betting markets and the brewing legal battle between federal and state regulation of prediction markets. Let's get into it. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 Dragonfly raises $650M Fund IV while other crypto VCs face "mass extinction" and downsizing 🔹 Kyle Samani's departure from Multicoin signals crypto's shift from pioneer to settler phase 🔹 Industry exodus includes Arianna Simpson, Toshi from Ethereum Foundation, and other veterans 🔹 OpenClaw creator almost deleted viral AI tool due to crypto Twitter harassment over tokens 🔹 X402 payment standard emerges as walletless protocol for AI agent transactions 🔹 OpenAI acquires OpenClaw through separate foundation structure, not direct acquisition 🔹 Polymarket launches controversial 5-minute Bitcoin up/down markets sparking gambling debate 🔹 CFTC chair files amicus briefs defending prediction markets against state regulation attempts 🔹 Federal vs state jurisdiction battle intensifies over event contracts vs sports betting classification 🔹 Institutional sentiment remains bullish while crypto native sentiment hits historic lows Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:04 Dragonfly Closes $650M Fund IV 03:26 Institutional vs Retail Sentiment 06:14 Bear Markets as Opportunity 13:48 Kyle Samani’s Exit 21:44 OpenClaw Gets ‘Acquired’ by OpenAI 24:03 Token Pressure & Harassment 25:05 Is OpenClaw Actually Useful? 31:01 Why Open Source Will Move Faster Than Big Labs 33:13 Agents, Memecoins, and the Dark Incentives 37:40 Why Crypto Payments Beat Credit Cards 40:09 Polymarket’s New 5-Minute Markets 49:43 State Gambling Laws vs CFTC Federal Preemption Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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DEX in the City: Why Prediction Markets Could Spark a Huge Constitutional Fight
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DEX in the City: Why Prediction Markets Could Spark a Huge Constitutional Fight

The crew tackles everything from the CFTC's controversial stance on prediction markets to the real-world impacts of rising crypto crime. Thank you to our sponsors! Figure is giving away $25,000 in USDC. Deposit into Democratized Prime, earn ~9% APY hourly—and every $1 you keep in for 25 days is 1 entry. Enter here Adaptive Security: As AI makes deception easier, security gets harder. Adaptive runs deepfake and phishing simulations so your team can train for real-world threats. Explore more The CFTC has announced an innovation council, Chair Mike Selig has asserted that prediction markets are under the agency's ambit, SBF wants another trial and Nancy Guthrie's kidnapping is casting crypto in a negative light. In this episode of DEX in the City, hosts Jessi Brooks, Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos and TuongVy Le discuss how the distribution of the CFTC's council highlights industry's need for better gender equity, why Selig's stance on prediction markets triggers “a huge constitutional debate,” why SBF's push for a new trial is so dangerous for crypto, and whether the crypto industry can do more to mitigate crime. Find out why SBF's search for a new trial has far reaching effects beyond his case. Plus, can crypto tackle crime without sacrificing its benefits? If you want your crypto taxes done carefully — not guessed — Crypto Tax Girl is offering $100 off one-on-one crypto tax services. Their team focuses solely on crypto and has been helping investors navigate tax season since 2017. Save $100 here Hosts: ⁠Jessi Brooks⁠, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos, General Counsel at StarkWare ⁠TuongVy Le⁠, General Counsel at Veda Links: Unchained: SEC and CFTC Signal United Front on Crypto Trump Won’t Consider Pardon for SBF: Report DEX in the City: How Crypto Exchanges May Be Holding Up the Market Structure Bill This week's good news: How Ripple is Helping Great Ormond Street Hospital Charity to Unlock Crypto Philanthropy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Is AI CapEx a Bubble? And Is Inflation Already Dead?
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Bits + Bips: Is AI CapEx a Bubble? And Is Inflation Already Dead?

The Mag 7 have committed over $700 billion to AI infrastructure, but the companies building the models may never capture the value. Thank you to our sponsors: Adaptive Security Fuse: The Energy Network The BLS just quietly revised away 862,000 jobs, and real-time inflation trackers now peg price growth below 1%, less than half of what official figures report. If the Fed is steering monetary policy with stale data, investors need to ask what else the models are getting wrong. At the same time, the Mag 7 have committed more than $700 billion to AI infrastructure, with Anthropic alone projecting $1 trillion in revenue within five years. Is that conviction or the early stages of a debt cycle nobody is pricing? And then there is the institutional side of crypto: BlackRock's BUIDL fund just landed on Uniswap with $2.4 billion in assets, Apollo acquired $90 million in Morpho tokens, and AI agents are already settling micropayments in stablecoins. Austin Campbell, Ram Ahluwalia, and Christopher Perkins sit down with Truflation’s CEO Stefan Rust to ask whether the numbers we trust are telling us the truth. Hosts: ⁠Ram Ahluwalia⁠, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida ⁠Austin Campbell⁠, NYU Stern professor and founder and managing partner of Zero Knowledge Consulting ⁠Christopher Perkins⁠, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund Guest: Stefan Rust, Founder and CEO of Truflation Links: Unchained: BlackRock Just Chose Uniswap. The Market Didn’t Care. Here’s Why. Apollo Moves Into DeFi Lending With Morpho Token Deal UNI Spikes on BlackRock DeFi Move, Then Gives It All Back Macro: NBC: U.S. had almost no job growth in 2025 PBS: Inflation measure falls to nearly five-year low as gas prices fall and housing costs cool Crowdfund Insider: Secretary Of The Treasury Scott Bessent Calls Out Truflation's Inflation Numbers At Senate Banking Hearing AI CapEx: Amazon, Google And Others Are Pouring $700 Billion Into AI CapEx, Top Analyst Explains Why This Makes It 'Hard' To Bet Against Nvidia CIO: Data center capex to hit $1.7 trillion by 2030 due to AI boom Reuters: OpenClaw founder Steinberger joins OpenAI, open-source bot becomes foundation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uneasy Money: Are Institutions Creating a New Crypto Meta?
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Uneasy Money: Are Institutions Creating a New Crypto Meta?

The crew unpacks BlackRock buying UNI, ARK, Citadel, DTCC, the Intercontinental Exchange and other TradFi players backing Zero, , Vitalik's thoughts on AI, and more. Thank you to our sponsors! Fuse: The Energy Network MultiChain Advisors Crypto Tax Girl AI safety chiefs are leaving, BlackRock's launching on Uniswap and buying UNI, LayerZero launches “the last blockchain” with institutional backing, Kaito is launching attention markets, Base is abandoning social and Vitalik has some thoughts on AI. Hosts Kain Warwick, Luca Netz and Taylor Monahan unpack these and more in yet another packed episode of Uneasy Money. Find out why Kain thinks the Uniswap and LayerZero news point to a new meta reminiscent of DeFi Summer. Plus, is Coinbase's Base playing it too safe? And is Vitalik fighting a losing battle? Hosts: Luca Netz, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Kain Warwick, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix Taylor Monahan, Security at MetaMask Links: Unchained: ⁠LayerZero Launches ‘Zero’ Layer 1 as Citadel, ARK Buy ZRO⁠ ⁠How Zero Blockchain Cracked 2 Million TPS and Is Still Decentralized⁠ ⁠Vitalik Buterin Pushes Back on the ‘Race to AGI,’ Outlines Ethereum-Led AI Path⁠ ⁠When AI Agents Take Over, What Does a Post-Human Economy Look Like?⁠ ⁠Uneasy Money: How the Increasingly Better AI Agents Are Being Used Onchain⁠ ⁠Uneasy Money: Why Crypto Still Can’t Overcome Its ICO Struggles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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DEX in the City: Is Now the 'Perfect Time to Launch a Crypto Scam'?
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DEX in the City: Is Now the 'Perfect Time to Launch a Crypto Scam'?

The market structure bill introduces a "control" test for DeFi protocols. The problem: nobody agrees on what control means. Figure is giving away $25,000 in USDC. Deposit into Democratized Prime, earn ~9% APY hourly—and every $1 you keep in for 25 days is 1 entry. Enter here Peter Van Valkenburgh of Coin Center sits down with Jessi Brooks and Vy Le to confront a question that will determine which DeFi projects can operate in the United States and which ones can't. The Blockchain Regulatory Certainty Act creates a carve-out for non-custodial developers, codifying the principle that if you never hold customer funds, you shouldn't need a money transmitter license. Simple enough on paper. But Vy presses on the hard cases: what about an admin key, an upgradeable vault, or a pause function built for security? Where exactly does "non-custodial" end and "control" begin? Meanwhile, Jessi raises the tension the industry rarely wants to discuss. The DOJ just charged cartel brokers moving money through crypto, yet simultaneously dismantled its own enforcement teams. If Congress clears developers, who pursues the actual criminals? The answer matters for every builder, investor, and victim watching this play out. Hosts: Jessi Brooks, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital TuongVy Le, General Counsel at Veda Guest: ⁠Peter Van Valkenburgh, Executive Director of Coin Center Links: ⁠​​Crypto Market Structure Bill Clears Senate Committee — But the Hard Part Is Still Ahead⁠ ⁠Senators Move to Curb Passive Stablecoin Yields in Market Structure Push⁠ ⁠Mastercard in Talks to Buy Zerohash for $2 Billion: Report⁠ ⁠How the GENIUS Act Creates a Built-In Advantage for Banks and Deposit Tokens⁠ ⁠How Nansen’s New Trading Agent Makes It Easier to Follow the Smart Money Onchain⁠ ⁠How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other⁠ ⁠Reading is Fundamental⁠ ⁠Stablecoin for Babies Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why MegaETH Is Delaying Its Token and Rejecting Credible Neutrality
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Why MegaETH Is Delaying Its Token and Rejecting Credible Neutrality

Namik Muduroglu and Amir Almaimani walk through MegaETH's launch strategy and why they are delaying the TGE. Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠Figure⁠ ⁠Crypto Tax Girl Months after its oversubscribed initial coin offering, MegaETH's mainnet is live. But the project is not launching its token just yet. In this Unchained podcast episode, MegaETH strategy chief Namik Muduroglu and Head of Ecosystem Amir Almaimani break down the Ethereum Layer 2 chain’s launch strategy, including its decision to delay TGE. They also explain how the MegaETH is navigating the current market slump and how it is positioning USDM as its long term moat. Plus, why they believe credible neutrality is a “losing strategy.” Guests: Namik Muduroglu, CSO & Founding Team at MegaETH Amir Almaimani, Head of Ecosystem of MegaETH Previous appearances on Unchained: MegaETH Just Had Its Public Sale. Can It Succeed in Building a Web2-Like Experience? Links: Unchained: Ethereum Lets Go of the Rollup Story. Here Are the 6 Tokens That Benefit MegaETH Plans Return of All Pre-Deposit Funds MegaETH Just Had Its Public Sale. Can It Succeed in Building a Web2-Like Experience? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why Bitcoin Developers Are Not Incentivized to Talk About the Quantum Threat
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Why Bitcoin Developers Are Not Incentivized to Talk About the Quantum Threat

Thank you to our sponsors! Figure Crypto Tax Girl Are bitcoiners underestimating the quantum threat to Bitcoin? That's the question Castle Island Ventures Partner Nic Carter has posed with some recent posts gauging the views of several leading Bitcoin developers on quantum computing. To help answer the question, Unchained reached out to Ethereum Foundation Researcher Justin Drake and Michigan University Professor Chris Peikert. In this episode, Justin and Chris, who is one of the foremost experts on lattice cryptography, break down the quantum computing threat to crypto and the potential timelines. Justin theorizes that Bitcoin developers may not be incentivized to talk about the quantum computing risk while still saying that a number of smart people are already taking it seriously and that may be enough. Conversely, Chris highlights the constraints that come with uncertainty around risks and timelines. Listen to find out what they conclude. Plus, could AI do crypto in before quantum computers? Guests: Justin Drake, Researcher at the Ethereum Foundation Chris Peikert, Professor, Computer Science and Engineering, University of Michigan Links: Ethereum and Optimism Lay the Groundwork for a Post-Quantum Future Q-Day Is Imminent. Can Bitcoin Survive the Quantum Threat? Solana Deploys Post-Quantum Signatures on Testnet Cracking Bitcoin Encryption Is Getting Much Easier, Google Says Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Could a Non-Crypto Hedge Fund Have Pulled a Bitcoin ‘Big Short'?
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Could a Non-Crypto Hedge Fund Have Pulled a Bitcoin ‘Big Short'?

Thank you to our sponsors! Figure Crypto Tax Girl What happened to Bitcoin on Feb. 5? And why does the apex crypto continue to underperform? DeFi Development Corp investment chief Parker White has some theories. In this Unchained podcast episode, Parker walks Laura Shin through them as they gain traction on X. At the center of it all is non-crypto Hong Kong fund and another fund that may be executing a ‘Big Short’-style trade using derivatives. Listen to find out why Parker is so convinced. Guest: Parker White, COO/Chief Investment Officer at DeFi Development Corp Links: Bitcoin Mining Gets a Rare Reset as Weaker Players Drop Out Why Bitcoin Is Down, Plus the Rare Bright Spot in Crypto: Hyperliquid Crypto Sentiment Is Down Bad. The Reality Is Far Different, Says Ryan Watkins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Could Blackrock Someday Feel Compelled to 'Fire' Bitcoin Core Devs?
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Bits + Bips: Could Blackrock Someday Feel Compelled to 'Fire' Bitcoin Core Devs?

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Figure is giving away $25,000 in USDC. Deposit into Democratized Prime, earn ~9% APY hourly—and every $1 you keep in for 25 days is 1 entry. Enter here --- Bitcoin slid toward $60,000 on Feb. 5 in a brutal, cross-asset selloff that hit gold, equities, and crypto alike. With leverage unwinding and basis trades breaking, long-time bitcoin holders are distributing to institutional buyers who, by 13F data, are mostly underwater. The mood across digital assets is bleak. Against that backdrop, Nic Carter of Castle Island Ventures argues that key Bitcoin narratives have quietly failed—and warns that developers’ inaction on quantum risk could open the door to institutional control. If devs don’t act, Carter says ETF giants like BlackRock will. The panel then widens the lens: declaring the token-centric VC model dead, debating whether AI now rivals the industrial revolution, and stress-testing it all across topics ranging from Solana vs. Hyperliquid to Japan’s political shift and MrBeast’s fintech play. --- If you want your crypto taxes done carefully — not guessed — Crypto Tax Girl is offering $100 off one-on-one crypto tax services. Their team focuses solely on crypto and has been helping investors navigate tax season since 2017. Save $100 here Hosts: Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida Austin Campbell, NYU Stern professor and founder and managing partner of Zero Knowledge Consulting Christopher Perkins, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund Guest: Nic Carter, Founding Partner at Castle Island Ventures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How Zero Blockchain Cracked 2M TPS Without Sacrificing Decentralization
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How Zero Blockchain Cracked 2M TPS Without Sacrificing Decentralization

Thank you to our sponsors! Figure Crypto Tax Girl LayerZero Labs is making bold promises with its coming Zero Blockchain. 2 million transactions per second per node. A thousandth of a penny per transaction. No compromises to decentralization. The big question is how?! In this Unchained podcast episode, LayerZero Labs CEO Bryan Pellegrino explains how the team was able to crack scalability by fixing blockchain storage and rethinking the crypto industry's approach to zero knowledge technology. With the blockchain already boasting partners such as Citadel Securities, DTCC and ICE, will Zero be the blockchain institutions decide to build on? Guest: Bryan Pellegrino, Co-founder & CEO of LayerZero Labs Links: LayerZero Foundation Buys Back 5% of ZRO Token Supply From Early Investors PayPal’s PYUSD Integrates LayerZero to Expand Across Blockchains The LayerZero/Wormhole Bidding War Shows How to Value a Crypto Business LayerZero Fought the Sybils and Airdropped Its Token. Did the Team Win? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Want to Hire an AI Agent? Check Their Reputation Via ERC-8004
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Want to Hire an AI Agent? Check Their Reputation Via ERC-8004

The ERC-8004 standard for trustless AI agent interactions is finally live on mainnet! In this Unchained episode, Ethereum Foundation AI Lead Davide Crapis joins to explain what the standard is, how it works, how it’s protected against manipulation, and what's next. Listen to find out his most interesting experience building the project and tips for builders looking to start businesses around AI agents. Guest: Davide Crapis, AI Lead at Ethereum Foundation Links: How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other Uneasy Money: How Ethereum May Have One-Upped Bitcoin in One Big Way Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uneasy Money: How the Increasingly Better AI Agents Are Being Used Onchain
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Uneasy Money: How the Increasingly Better AI Agents Are Being Used Onchain

Thank you to our sponsors! Fuse: The Energy Network MultiChain Advisors Vitalik Buterin just dropped a bombshell: the L2 vision no longer makes sense. Meanwhile, AI coding agents are going parabolic. In this monster episode of Uneasy Money, Ethereum Foundation Head of Developer Growth Austin Griffith and Optimism co-founder Karl Floersch join hosts Kain Warwick and Taylor Monahan to unpack the reasoning behind Vitalik's remarks and debate whether Ethereum needs L2s to pull institutions. They also take a deep dive into the OpenClaw and Moltbook craze and Austin shares how he has different agents running on different machines, including one that texts his wife good morning everyday. Is “AI the new UI?” Hosts: Kain Warwick, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix Taylor Monahan, Security Expert, Metamask Guests: Austin Griffith, AI Lead at Ethereum Foundation Karl Floersh, CTO of OP Labs Links: Vitalik Rethinks Ethereum’s L2 Playbook, Calls for Shift Toward Native Rollups How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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When AI Agents Take Over, What Does a Post-Human Economy Look Like?
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When AI Agents Take Over, What Does a Post-Human Economy Look Like?

Thank you to our sponsors! Fuse In one week, OpenClaw agents have gotten their own social networking platform, launched cryptocurrency tokens and built a site to rent humans. In this episode of Unchained, DAIS Global Chair Michael Casey and The Exponentialist co-founder David Mattin explore what Moltbook reveals about the direction of the AI trend, how AI could impact jobs and what a post-human economy looks like. Will Bitcoin be the currency of the future? Don't miss Michael's sovereign AI thesis and how Mattin believes we can navigate the transition to a post-human society. Hint: “lean into your weirdness.” Guests: Michael Casey, Chairman of DAIS Global David Mattin, Co-founder of The Exponentialist Links: How Nansen’s New Trading Agent Makes It Easier to Follow the Smart Money Onchain How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other Check out David's newsletter New World Same Humans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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DEX in the City: Why AI Agents Are Good for Crypto and Stablecoins
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DEX in the City: Why AI Agents Are Good for Crypto and Stablecoins

If you’re looking for help with crypto taxes, Crypto Tax Girl is offering $100 off for Unchained listeners. They provide personalized crypto tax reports and tax returns, and availability before April 15 is limited. Go to http://cryptotaxgirl.com/unchained to save $100! The White House is intervening in the fight over stablecoin yield. And AI agents are… organizing? In this special episode of DEX in the City, Zerohash CEO Edward Woodford joins hosts Jessi Brooks and Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos to unpack the White House meeting to resolve disputes over the CLARITY Act and the Moltbook craze. Listen to find out why Edward thinks CLARITY should have a narrower focus and what he thinks is more important than the yield debate. Plus why Jessi thinks the crypto industry is pinning too much hope on the bill. Don't also miss Edward's rationale behind rejecting $2B from Mastercard and KK's awkward interaction with a teacher after offering to teach crypto at her son's school. Meanwhile, as AI agents proliferate, where does accountability lie? Hosts: Jessi Brooks, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos, General Counsel at StarkWare Guest: Edward Woodford, Founder and CEO of Zerohash Links: ​​Crypto Market Structure Bill Clears Senate Committee — But the Hard Part Is Still Ahead Senators Move to Curb Passive Stablecoin Yields in Market Structure Push Mastercard in Talks to Buy Zerohash for $2 Billion: Report How the GENIUS Act Creates a Built-In Advantage for Banks and Deposit Tokens How Nansen’s New Trading Agent Makes It Easier to Follow the Smart Money Onchain How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other Reading is Fundamental Stablecoin for Babies Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why Bitcoin Is Down, Plus the Rare Bright Spot in Crypto: Hyperliquid
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Why Bitcoin Is Down, Plus the Rare Bright Spot in Crypto: Hyperliquid

Thank you to our sponsor! Fuse Bitcoin's collapse is accelerating. Continuing a descent that began last week, the asset this week has all the price progress made under the Trump administration. The price action begs the question why amid greater adoption and support. In this episode of Unchained, FalconX Head of Markets Joshua Lim highlights two main reasons for Bitcoin's regression and offers his outlook for the year. Is it 2022 all over? Plus, how gold's run resembles GameStop in 2021 and why Hyperliquid is a bright spot amid market weakness. Guest: Joshua Lim, Head of Markets, FalconX Links: Bitcoin Sinks as Markets Price In a More Hawkish Fed Has Bitcoin Failed to Live Up to the Digital Gold Narrative? Why HYPE Is Up While Every Other Crypto, Including Bitcoin, Is Down Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Bitcoin Is Deeply Oversold. Does That Mean the Bottom Is In?
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Bits + Bips: Bitcoin Is Deeply Oversold. Does That Mean the Bottom Is In?

Crypto markets are under severe pressure, with Bitcoin sliding into one of the most oversold conditions in its history and Ethereum following closely behind. In this episode of Bits + Bips, Steve Ehrlich sits down with Fairlead Strategies founder Katie Stockton to walk through what the charts are actually signaling amid the selloff. They discuss why oversold does not automatically mean a bottom, how technicians look for downside exhaustion, and what needs to change before confidence returns for Bitcoin and ETH. Hosts: Steven Ehrlich, Host, Bits + Bips Guests: Katie Stockton, Founder and Managing Partner, Fairlead Strategies Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: Market Meltdown, CZ vs. Star Feud, and Tarun's Epstein Files Cameo
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The Chopping Block: Market Meltdown, CZ vs. Star Feud, and Tarun's Epstein Files Cameo

The hosts dive into Bitcoin's volatility below $75K, dissect the explosive CZ vs Star Twitter battle over who caused the 10/10 liquidation cascade, debate the ethics of founder secondary sales with passionate disagreement, and explore the surprising crypto connections in the newly released Epstein files including Tarun's unexpected cameo. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, the crew tackles a volatile market with Bitcoin struggling below $75K and explores what's driving the uncertainty. They dive deep into the explosive Twitter battle between Binance founder CZ and OKX's Star over who really caused the catastrophic 10/10 liquidation event that broke crypto's correlation with traditional markets. The conversation gets heated as the hosts debate the ethics of founder secondary sales — with Haseeb taking a surprisingly libertarian stance against his co-hosts. Finally, they explore the unexpected crypto connections in the newly released Epstein files, including Tarun's own amusing cameo and connections to Coinbase, Bitcoin Core developers, and other industry figures. From market analysis to Twitter drama to moral philosophy, this episode covers the full spectrum of crypto discourse. Let's get into it. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 Bitcoin below $75K signals uncertain market conditions with equal odds of hitting $40K or $130K 🔹 CZ vs Star Twitter battle over who caused the catastrophic 10/10 liquidation cascade 🔹 Athena unwinding timeline analysis challenges Star's claims about Binance's role 🔹 Heated debate on founder secondary sales ethics with sharp disagreements among hosts 🔹 Tarun's unexpected appearance in Epstein files via Quora digest on homomorphic encryption 🔹 Epstein's 2014 Coinbase investment and connections to Brock Pierce revealed 🔹 Bitcoin developers' interactions with Epstein including Adam Back and Jeremy Rubin 🔹 MicroStrategy's break-even position becomes psychological market threshold 🔹 Quantum computing concerns emerge as potential Bitcoin selling catalyst 🔹 Post-10/10 correlation breakdown between crypto and traditional risk assets analyzed Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Why Gold Price Discovery Happened on Hyperliquid
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Bits + Bips: Why Gold Price Discovery Happened on Hyperliquid

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. --- If you want expert help with crypto taxes — without guessing or DIY spreadsheets — Crypto Tax Girl is offering $100 off their crypto tax services for Unchained listeners. They provide personalized support for everything from complex transactions to full tax returns. Get $100 off --- In this episode of Bits + Bips, Austin Campbell and Chris Perkins sit down with Cosmo Jiang to unpack what gold’s volatility shock revealed about market structure, why onchain venues like Hyperliquid are increasingly where price discovery happens, and how digital asset treasuries are being blamed for stress they did not create. The conversation also turns to Kevin Warsh’s nomination as Fed chair and why it represents a deeper shift in institutional power, not just personnel. Hosts: Austin Campbell, NYU Stern professor and founder and managing partner of Zero Knowledge Consulting Christopher Perkins, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund Guest: Cosmo Jiang, General Partner at Pantera Capital Links: Crypto at a Crossroads: Winter Fatigue Meets the Risk of Lower Lows Weekend Drama Rekindles Debate Over What Really Caused the October 10 Crash Crypto’s Weekend Washout Tests Conviction After a Brutal Week Bitcoin Sinks as Markets Price In a More Hawkish Fed Why HYPE Is Up While Every Other Crypto, Including Bitcoin, Is Down Hyperliquid Prepares Prediction-Style Markets With HIP-4 Upgrade Hyperliquid Sees Record Trading as Commodities Drive New Interest ​​Crypto Market Structure Bill Clears Senate Committee — But the Hard Part Is Still Ahead Silver and gold extend losses after last week's historic plunge Gold Volatility Tops Bitcoin in Wildest Price Swings Since 2008 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: The Most Dangerous Type of Asset to Trade on Weekends
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Bits + Bips: The Most Dangerous Type of Asset to Trade on Weekends

Crypto has stalled, but markets haven’t. As volatility migrates and narratives shift, retail traders are moving fast into exciting, but risky frontiers. We break down where attention is going next, how professionals are adapting, and why this cycle feels different from the last. Host: Steven Ehrlich, Host: Bits + Bips: The Interview Guest: Evgeny Gaevoy, Founder and CEO, Wintermute Links: Adams’ NYC Memecoin Crashes After Debut, Sparking Outcry Memecoins Were Hot a Year Ago. Many Have Crashed Over 90% Crypto Traders Flee to Prediction Bets After Crash Prediction Markets to Get New Federal Rules, CFTC Chair Says Three Reasons for the Record Rise in Gold Prices, and One Why They Are Falling Gold Falls as Investors Take Profits After Record High Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uneasy Money: How Ethereum May Have One-Upped Bitcoin in One Big Way
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Uneasy Money: How Ethereum May Have One-Upped Bitcoin in One Big Way

Thank you to our sponsors, Fuse: The Energy Network and MultiChain Advisors! What is the Moltbot buzz about? In this episode of Uneasy Money, hosts Kain Warwick, Luca Netz and Taylor Monahan delve into why Moltbot, the new AI agent hogging the internet spotlight, is so exciting as well as the memecoin drama that has followed. They also discuss how the son of a U.S. government contractor was allegedly caught flexing stolen Bitcoin in an online contest, analyzing how scammers can be so dumb. Plus, why Ethereum's quantum computing initiative is so bullish in contrast to Bitcoin’s nonchalance. Also, are memecoins back? Don't miss out on what Kain says is the real AI agent opportunity and Luca's tales of flipping Instagram handles for millions of dollars. Hosts: Kain Warwick, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix Luca Netz, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Taylor Monahan, Security at MetaMask Links: How Nansen’s New Trading Agent Makes It Easier to Follow the Smart Money Onchain How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other Ilya Lichtenstein Pleads Guilty to 2016 Bitfinex Hack of Billions in Bitcoin Ethereum and Optimism Lay the Groundwork for a Post-Quantum Future Q-Day Is Imminent. Can Bitcoin Survive the Quantum Threat? PUMP Drops Below ICO Price as Private Sale Investors Send $160 Million to Exchanges Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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DEX in the City: How Crypto Exchanges May Be Holding Up the Market Structure Bill
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DEX in the City: How Crypto Exchanges May Be Holding Up the Market Structure Bill

If you’re looking for help with crypto taxes, Crypto Tax Girl is offering $100 off for Unchained listeners. They provide personalized crypto tax reports and tax returns, and availability before April 15 is limited. Go to http://cryptotaxgirl.com/unchained to save $100! President Donald Trump is suing JPMorgan for $5 billion, a U.S. government contractor's son is linked to Bitcoin theft from the government, the SEC and CFTC appear to be collaborating on crypto and CZ's Davos interview goes viral. In yet another packed episode of DEX in the City, hosts Jessi Brooks, Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos and Vy Le dive into how Trump's case impacts the debanking debate, how a government contractor’s son was bragging about controlling federally seized crypto, why the crypto regulatory turf war may be taking a different shape and CZ's interview, which got a bit too detailed about the horrors of prison. Does the government need a Bitcoin Fort Knox and is the U.S. moving towards a single financial regulator? Listen to find out! Hosts: Jessi Brooks, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos, General Counsel at StarkWare TuongVy Le, General Counsel at Veda Links: Trump Signs Executive Order to Prevent Crypto Debanking Bessent Clarifies U.S. Bitcoin Reserve Plans Ilya Lichtenstein Pleads Guilty to 2016 Bitfinex Hack of Billions in Bitcoin SEC and CFTC Signal United Front on Crypto CZ Denies Ties to Trump and WLFI After Pardon Good news Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The DAO’s Unclaimed ETH Becomes a $220M Ethereum Security Fund
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The DAO’s Unclaimed ETH Becomes a $220M Ethereum Security Fund

Thank you to our sponsor, Walrus! Walrus is where the world’s data becomes reliable, valuable, and governable. --- In this exclusive Unchained interview, Griff Green, one of the original DAO curators and a member of the White Hat Group that helped recover funds after the 2016 DAO hack, reveals how tens of thousands of unclaimed ETH are being transformed into a long-term security fund for the Ethereum ecosystem. Nearly ten years after the most infamous exploit in crypto history, the community is repurposing its leftovers, not to rewrite history, but to prevent it from repeating itself. The new DAO Security Fund will deploy grants for Ethereum security research, infrastructure, incident response, and user protection, while also reviving DAO-based governance experiments that have fallen out of favor. Griff explains how the fund will work, why the Ethereum Foundation is involved, how staking will generate sustainable funding, and why, despite Ethereum’s strength, crypto still isn't safe enough for everyday users. Guests: Griff Green, Co-Founder at Giveth, q/acc & Unicorn.eth Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: RWA Perps Go Parabolic, ClawdBot, & Superstate's $82M Raise
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The Chopping Block: RWA Perps Go Parabolic, ClawdBot, & Superstate's $82M Raise

The crew breaks down Superstate's massive $82M Series B for tokenization, the explosive rise of TradeXYZ's commodities trading hitting $1B+ volume, different tokenization models from "bootleg" to "back office," the ClawdBot AI phenomenon taking over coding, and how agent-based development is revolutionizing crypto software engineering. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, Robert drops news about Superstate's massive $82 million Series B raise led by Bain Capital to bring Wall Street on-chain through tokenization. The crew dives deep into the explosive growth of Hip3 markets, particularly TradeXYZ's commodities trading that's hitting over $1 billion in daily volume as precious metals rip to all-time highs. They break down the different tokenization models emerging - from "bootleg" third-party approaches to "back office" settlement tools to issuer-led official tokenization. Then the conversation shifts to the ClawdBot phenomenon taking the internet by storm, exploring how AI agents are revolutionizing coding and what this means for the future of software engineering in crypto. From vibe coding to the complete transformation of how startups will be built, the hosts examine whether we're witnessing a fundamental shift in how technical work gets done. Show highlights 🔹 Superstate raises $82M Series B led by Bain Capital for official securities tokenization 🔹 TradeXYZ hits $1B+ daily volume trading commodities on HyperLiquid's Hip3 markets 🔹 Gold and silver surge drives massive crypto-native precious metals trading boom 🔹 Three tokenization models emerge: "bootleg" third-party, "back office" settlement, issuer-led official 🔹 ClawdBot/Molt Bot AI phenomenon explodes with agent-based life automation tools 🔹 Security concerns arise as thousands of unsecured ClawdBot gateways discovered online 🔹 Agent coding revolution transforms software engineering from hand-coding to management 🔹 Anthropic employees fully transition to Claude Code, abandoning traditional IDEs entirely 🔹 Crypto exchanges expand beyond crypto to capture trading cohorts aging into new assets 🔹 AI meme coin cycles continue as crypto financializes every new tech breakthrough Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:05 Superstate's $82M Series B Raise 05:16 Tokenization Models: Bootleg vs Back Office vs Issuer-Led 10:03 Trade XYZ HIP-3 Markets Commodities Surge 17:06 Why Crypto Traders Are Flocking to Precious Metals 20:45 The Evolution of Crypto Trading Cohorts 28:14 ClawdBot AI Phenomenon 32:02 Security Concerns with AI Life Automation 35:43 Agent Coding Revolution 41:30 How AI is Transforming Crypto Startups 46:22 Anthropic Teams Fully Adopt Claude Code 51:06 Future of Software Engineering and Hiring Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why 2025 Crypto Taxes Will Be Trickier Than Normal: What You Need to Know
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Why 2025 Crypto Taxes Will Be Trickier Than Normal: What You Need to Know

If you’re looking for help with crypto taxes, Crypto Tax Girl is offering $100 off for Unchained listeners. They provide personalized crypto tax reports and tax returns, and availability before April 15 is limited. Go to http://cryptotaxgirl.com/unchained to save $100! --- Thank you to our sponsor, Adaptive Security! As AI makes deception easier, security gets harder. Adaptive runs deepfake and phishing simulations so your team can train for real-world threats. Explore more: http://adaptivesecurity.com --- Worried about your 2025 taxes? Don't fret, Unchained has you covered! In this episode, Crypto Tax Girl founder Laura Walter joins to unpack new crypto tax developments such as the 1099-DA, offering strategies to navigate what she calls a tricky year for crypto taxation. The key takeaway: “Don't freak out.” Whether you only use stablecoins, are a heavy DeFi user, are a miner or staker, or even just a prediction market trader, you don't want to miss this episode! Guest: Laura Walter, Founder and CPA of Crypto Tax Girl Links: White House Considers Bid to Tax Crypto Held in Foreign Accounts Roger Ver to Pay $48 Million in Tentative Settlement Deal With DOJ: Report Senator Lummis Pushes Making Small Crypto Transactions Tax-Free in ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ Crypto’s Black Friday Was Its Largest Liquidation Ever. What the Hell Happened? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Gold to $12,000 or “Sell Gold Today”? – Bits + Bips
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Gold to $12,000 or “Sell Gold Today”? – Bits + Bips

Crypto taxes stressing you out? You don’t have to figure it out alone. We’ve partnered with Crypto Tax Girl, a crypto-focused tax firm that’s been helping investors since 2017, to give readers $100 off personalized, one-on-one crypto tax help. Their team can handle everything from transaction calculations to full tax returns — but pre-April 15 spots are limited, so don’t wait! Grab $100 off here In this episode of Bits + Bips, Austin Campbell, Ram Ahluwalia, Chris Perkins, and guest Charles Edwards debate what “realpolitik” means for markets, why gold is leading, and whether Bitcoin is lagging for a reason that is not just sentiment. They also argue over a counterintuitive claim gaining traction on desks: that rate cuts can be bad for risk assets in a high-debt world, and that the biggest adoption blocker for Bitcoin may be a known unknown, the quantum threat, whether it is imminent or simply believed enough to cap upside. Hosts: Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida Austin Campbell, NYU Stern professor and founder and managing partner of Zero Knowledge Consulting Christopher Perkins, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund Guests: Charles Edwards, Founder & CIO at Capriole Investments Links: Why Gold Rose and Bitcoin Tumbled on Japan Bond Turmoil Should You Buy Gold or Bitcoin? Here’s How to Think About It Bitcoin Stumbles as Global Tensions Push Investors Toward Safe Havens Bitcoin Rebounds After Trump’s Truth Social Post Eases Tariff Fears Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bits + Bips: Why Gold Still Dominates — And What Bitcoin Must Prove
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Bits + Bips: Why Gold Still Dominates — And What Bitcoin Must Prove

Gold is hitting new highs. Bitcoin is struggling to keep up. And once again, the “digital gold” narrative is being put to the test.On today’s episode of Bits + Bips: The Interview, host Steve Ehrlich sits down with Steve Sosnick, Chief Strategist at Interactive Brokers, to break down why bitcoin still trades like a risk asset, why gold keeps winning in moments of market stress, and what crypto must prove to close the credibility gap. From rising bond yields to geopolitics and Fed independence, this conversation cuts through the noise to explain what’s really driving markets right now. Hosts: Steven Ehrlich, Executive Editor at Unchained Guests: Steve Sosnick, Chief Strategist at Interactive Brokers Links: Should You Buy Gold or Bitcoin? Here’s How to Think About It Bitcoin Rebounds After Trump’s Truth Social Post Eases Tariff Fears Crypto Slides on Tariff Fears as Gold Breaks Above $4,850 Why Gold Rose and Bitcoin Tumbled on Japan Bond Turmoil Supreme Court casts doubt on Trump’s power to fire Fed official without proper review Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uneasy Money: Why Crypto Still Can't Overcome Its ICO Struggles
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Uneasy Money: Why Crypto Still Can't Overcome Its ICO Struggles

Thank you to our sponsors! Fuse: The Energy Network MultiChain Advisors Trove Markets crashed at launch after a hyped ICO. X has pulled the plug on the InfoFi meta. Farcaster has been absorbed. In this packed Uneasy Money episode, hosts Luca Netz, Kain Warwick and Taylor Monahan delve into how Trove's crash suggests that crypto's ICO struggles persist. Kain suggests X's move to block out InfoFi applications is “bullish” for the platform and the crew explores what's next for decentralized social media along with the takeaways from Farcaster's run. They also discuss the pervasiveness of wallet poisoning scams, why Cosmos is struggling despite its good tech and why Paradex's rollback suggests that crypto's “code is law” ethos may be dying out. Don't miss out on how Luca nearly got wrapped up in the Trove drama and Tay's tips to spot suspicious projects. Plus, why Kain thinks two people building with AI could succeed where Farcaster failed. Hosts: Luca Netz, CEO of Pudgy Penguins Kain Warwick, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix Taylor Monahan, Security at MetaMask Links: Uneasy Money: ICOs Are Back and Why Airdrops Are Instantly Dumped X Bans Incentivized Posting Apps, Prompting Shakeup in Crypto Engagement Platforms Linda Xie on How Mini-Apps Are Helping Farcaster Take on Web2 Social Media Ethereum Sets New Activity Record as Network Upgrades Pay Off Paradex Rollback Raises Hard Questions After Pricing Glitch Triggers Liquidations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Chopping Block: Crypto Clarity Act Drama + Stablecoin Yield Wars + Developer Liability Fights
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The Chopping Block: Crypto Clarity Act Drama + Stablecoin Yield Wars + Developer Liability Fights

This week the boys break down the Crypto Clarity Act's dramatic Senate markup with Coin Center's Peter Van Valkenburgh, covering developer liability concerns, tokenized securities language controversy, the banking industry's war against stablecoin yield. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. Tarun's out this episode, but we're joined by Peter Van Valkenburgh, Principal of Policy at Coin Center and one of the sharpest legal minds in crypto. This week, we're diving deep into the Crypto Clarity Act drama that has DC in chaos mode. What started as crypto's best shot at comprehensive regulation just hit a major roadblock when Coinbase pulled their support hours before the Senate markup. We'll break down the developer liability questions around "control" definitions, the tokenized securities language that has Brian Armstrong fired up, and the stablecoin yield restrictions that have banks and crypto companies at each other's throats. Peter gives us the inside scoop on what's really in this 200-page bill, why Polymarket odds crashed from 80% to 40%, and whether this legislative train wreck can still get back on track. Let's get into it. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 Coinbase pulls support for Crypto Clarity Act hours before Senate markup, citing "defacto ban" on tokenized equities 🔹 Peter Van Valkenburgh explains developer liability concerns and how "control" definitions could impact DeFi protocols 🔹 Debate over whether the bill actually kills tokenized securities innovation or just restates existing law 🔹 Banking industry fights to restrict stablecoin yield payments, fearing deposit flight and profit compression 🔹 Tom breaks down multiple loopholes in yield restrictions that could easily be exploited through rewards programs 🔹 Robert argues banks are protecting oligopoly profits while stifling consumer choice and competition 🔹 Peter warns that fighting over yield could jeopardize crucial developer protections like the Blockchain Regulatory Certainty Act 🔹 Polymarket odds for bill passage crash from 80% to 40% as political tensions escalate 🔹 Discussion of sanctions obligations for DeFi frontend operators and application layer providers Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Guest ⭐️Peter Van Valkenburgh, Executive Director of Coin Center Disclosures Links Senate Banking Nears Vote on Digital Asset Market Structure by Peter Van Valkenburgh & Jason Somensatto & Lizandro (Laz) Pieper https://www.coincenter.org/senate-banking-nears-vote-on-digital-asset-market-structure/ Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:36 Clarity Act Panic 04:46 Peter's Expert Take: Why This Bill Matters 10:16 Developer Liability 19:36 Sanctions Compliance 27:03 Tokenized Equities Fight 35:42 Great Yield War: Banks vs. Stablecoins 45:11 Will Clarity Survive? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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